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An Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction

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posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 07:29 AM
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hmmmmmm interesting.

What I am waiting for..... the big question is, is it natural or manmade?

I'm waiting here for it to pop up and I will be surprised if it doesn't. If I'm wrong well, I will have a lot of questions to ask myself!




posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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I want the world to understand all of it, so that the people themselves actually get to go out and do all of it without having to rely upon governments, so that the people can realize that they really do need to evacuate, or at least realize that there is impending danger. There will be no more false predictions from people using unscientific methods.


But you are saying that your equipment will accurately predict earthquakes 100% of the time well in advance, so how about it? Can we see a 100% accurate advance prediction?

I realize you're new to ATS and may not be aware of this... but a lot of people talk the talk and never walk the walk. With all due respect, comrad, we'll be needing a little proof before we uncork the champagne.



posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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I was reading over on the EQ in Sweden thread, and the photos of the red sky (after sunset) jogged a memory for me. For expediency, I'll copy and paste my post on that thread. Anyone else notice this recently? Damntheptb, did you happen to notice this here in Reno last week?

"Your post and photos just jogged a memory for me... last week, I can't recall exactly which day, I noticed the same thing in the sky here in Reno... the sky was lit up like a red sunset, except it was due North... and past sunset. My bf and I discussed it a bit, but I never connected it with earthquakes. Due north of me is just wide open barren desert right up to the Idaho border, no cities, etc.

The only time in my personal experience that I've seen what were then termed earthquake lights, was during a 6.3 earthquake in San Jose, CA in the 80's. It was 3 a.m., but I watched blinding white flashes light up the sky brighter than daylight outside the window across the room from me. It was after that, I went to a library and researched earthquake lights.

But clearly here, we're talking about something completely different, which is why, I believe, at the time we saw the red horizon in the North, earthquakes didn't occur to me. Fascinating. S&F

Edit to add: I thought I'd read something about red skies and earthquakes and I found it in my EQ files. Scroll down to page 3, Precursor Phenomena in the Sky... "

www.worldscibooks.com...

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posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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Hi guys...how are you all?

I know I'm a little bit late with this, but I've been thinking about the Swedish EQ a couple of days ago. It seems to be a really strange place for an earthquake and it perhaps makes sense of the weird headaches I had for about 3 days beforehand that seems to stop after the quake. It was like having a headache right in the center of my skull, almost behind my eyes and nothing would get rid of it. I get migraines very occasionally, but it wasn't one of those...completly different. The thing is...now it's back, and I'm wondering if I'm picking up on something else. will keep you posted. Hopefully it's nothing. Thanks for reading..

Cait x



posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 08:34 PM
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Comrad "kattraxx" the equipment detects "silent earthquake" precursors well in advance of the actual earthquake. Understanding how it all works makes 100% accurate earthquake forecasts easy. You will have to wait till the videos come out on YouTube to understand it all.

You my dear lady are a NEWBIE to ATS, you'd better check your activation date compared to mine, to ensure your future statements are correct before broadcasting. As you state; you should always walk the walk, before you can talk.

I've walked the walk through tens of thousands of successful experiments spanning decades, so don't fret about my future, because my future is bright!

I wouldn't buy champagne yet, as a matter of fact I wouldn't buy champagne at all, that stuff tastes nasty, and somehow it just seems like its cheap stuff. Thats probably why they pour it into such tiny shallow glasses, because that is all a person can stand to drink. A buyer will have to step forward before there will be any celebration.

People out there trying to use bodily ailments, moon phases, strange animal activity, and other things not directly linked to earth processes are beating a dead horse in trying to predict earthquakes; these people are "GUARANTEED TO FAIL" in their predictions.

The only way to scientifically forecast earthquakes accurately, is by detecting abnormal pressures within the Earth itself that are scientifically conclusive of an actual connection of an upcoming eartquake using scientific equipment.

Where would the weather forecasting industry be today if they were using bodily ailments, moon phases, and strange animal activity to forecast the weather? They would not exist, if that were the case. By using scientific equipment, weather forecasters can detect future trends and give accurate forecasts.

The difference between weather forecasts and future earthquake forecasts are: that earthquakes don't move, making it easier to get 100% accuracy; whilst the weather is constantly moving and involves many complex anomalies making it harder to forecast in certain areas. So, in the near future, earthquake forecasts will be extremely reliable.

If I saw a weather forecaster on TV showing what part of their body was ailing, and there was a quarter moon, and their cat peed on the carpet again and they used those sequences as their anology to predict an upcoming rain in a couple of days, or maybe a snow storm; that would be the end of watching TV weather forecasts for me and billions of other people; we rely on science, not foolish notions.



posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 08:39 PM
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I also had my interest piqued by the same thread.

My reasons were that I had noticed some bright redish/pinkish lights in the evening sky last night.

I honestly thought it was possible effects of the meteor shower going on at the moment, and due to the rain and overcast skies it was just seeping through.

But, about 2 hours ago, there was a 2.9 EQ 20 miles from my residence in Knoxville, TN.

Odd, maybe nothing, but still odd.



posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 08:43 PM
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Thanks for sharing that, TwiTcHomatic. It is strange. I wish I'd have thought more of it at the time and taken a photograph, because it was well past sunset.

A couple more hours and my California 4.5-5.0 prediction runs out. A swing and a miss. I think I'll stick to basing them on my precursors. Even so, the geysers and hot springs have been overly active.



posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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I think there will be more in this area, and soon.

I have dreamed of the Sunsphere downtown falling in an EQ before, but that was long ago. Its not that though, more of a feeling.. and being drawn into seismology more in the past few years.

This area gets maybe 1 small EQ a year, that is generally not felt.

I feel its past due since the 1811 big one.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 10:47 AM
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Talk, talk, talk. Post a prediction. Maybe then, we'll have something to discuss.

As for the merit of our experiment here, read the thread.

Adieu.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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Caitlin, there was also this EQ:

Magnitude 5.3 - SOUTHERN ITALY
2008 December 17 21:57:44 UTC

Keep a log of your precursors and see if you can make connections that will distinguish one region from another. Charlotte says that sensitives can pick up seismic events all over the planet, no matter where they are. My experience has been that I'm better at some regions than others.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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First, let me welcome you to the thread, and second, what Kat was trying to say is that you have all this wonderful "100% accurate method" that you have used??? for many years, and all it really adds up to is a bunch of BS!!!!! I am not being rude, but you have to understand the scope of what you are saying, and the fact that you just want to "CASH OUT" BEFORE THE WORLD CAN HAVE A GUARENTEED 100% ACCURATE WAY OF PREDICTING eq'S............. IM a realist and if something smells like shi* and looks like shi*, TYPICALLY IT IS SHI*


I am not saying what you speak about is not true, you have not proven ANYTHING to us. you have some nice technical verbage, and theory, but proof is proof.... talk is talk.
We put this thread together during the EQ swarms here in reno, and both Katt and myself were sitting on top of most epicenters, and knew that animals can sense the impending situations, so logically we figured out that we as humans can also get the same signals, but have probally
grown to tune out the "animal instincts"

We definitly apreciate ANYONE who wants to add or help, but please DO NOT SOME ON HERE SAYING THAT YOUR METHOD( that you will not give us ANY proof) is 100% and ALL other methods will fail.... that is just being stubborn and not very open minded at all.

we have had A LOT of posts over a many month period, and have not had any of the "trolling", or bashing of peoples thoughts or methods of trying to predict EQ's

THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT IN TO THE ALTERNATE METHODS OF EQ PREDICTION, which by its own nature would include anything you have to add to this end result, but we want to take you seriously, so please supply some kind of proof.
I dont want to wait till you "get paid", so if you can prove ANYTHING, let us know. or you can private U2U me.

let me make this very clear...... I am not arguing your "theory", but we have heard lots of "methods", and without proof, they are nothing, so please dont take this the wrong way, but with no proof, I cannot take what you say as truth.

EDIT --- typoes!!!!!!!!!


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posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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damntheptb, could your grandfather predict the weather with his aches and pains as well as mine could? Boy oh boy, if my grandfather said a nor'easter was coming in before morning, that we'd get a foot of snow, you could take that to the bank!



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by kattraxx
damntheptb, could your grandfather predict the weather with his aches and pains as well as mine could? Boy oh boy, if my grandfather said a nor'easter was coming in before morning, that we'd get a foot of snow, you could take that to the bank!


Ha ha, yeah, i grew up in upstate NY (waaaaaay upstate), and my grandpa always knew before a storm came, and he didnt have a tv to watch.

especially the nor'easters..... he could also tell when we were going to have a major lightning storm( which we had a lot in the upper adirondack mountains), hours before it would turn nasty and violent.

I for one think that ANYONE who says people or animals cannot pick up on this stuff is absolutly ignorant to the facts in front of them.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by RussianScientists

I've walked the walk through tens of thousands of successful experiments spanning decades, so don't fret about my future, because my future is bright!

talk is cheap, and proof is waiting to be seen...........




People out there trying to use bodily ailments, moon phases, strange animal activity, and other things not directly linked to earth processes are beating a dead horse in trying to predict earthquakes; these people are "GUARANTEED TO FAIL" in their predictions.


spoken like a scientist with a closed mind..... people have used these techniques for many many years, and i know a few who HAVE made succesfull predictions, and continue to do so......... if you really are "intelligent" you would do some research before you write off everyone "else" as failures....... this tells me a lot about you.......



The only way to scientifically forecast earthquakes accurately, is by detecting abnormal pressures within the Earth itself that are scientifically conclusive of an actual connection of an upcoming eartquake using scientific equipment.


Well you may be right about "SCIENTIFICALLY" FORECASTING EQ'S, but where has all that "scientific" knowledge helped this planet at all????????
a true scientist will tell you that there is NO way to predict eq's...... that is what we DON'T beleive and why we chose to do an experiment on ALTERNATIVE methods.......


One last question for you..... if Animals and People CANNOT feel these events before they happen, why do pigeons all land just before a quake hits.... why did thousands of frogs attempt to flee the destroyed area of sichuan quake, before it hit??? how have some people successfully predicted eq's (at the cost of being outcasted or ridiculed) based on the "aches, etc", how did my wife and I happen to always wake up seconds before a quake hit during the months of 5000 plus quakes we had here??????? OBVIOUSLY, our bodies are able to tune into other frequencies or pick up variations in all the fields surrounding us.......


I apologize again for coming off as hammering you down, but like I stated up above, we have been at this thread for a long time, and we HAVE had positive results from various people on here, so I will ask you politely......If you are coming on here to say that we are all wrong and it cannot be done, than please leave the thread, and go back to the peanut gallery...... and your geological weapons theory......
thank you

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posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 01:54 PM
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Comrad "damntheptb" you are all right, I don't care what your mom and dad says; hahahahahaha. Thanks for welcoming me to the thread.

Well it doesn't stink over here, you better check your own shoes; it smells like roses where I'm at; science is science. I don't have theories damtheptb, I have scientific facts that can be proven any day of the year, anywhere on the planet Earth. I'm stubborn and not very open minded when I'm looking at the scientific fact, and I know that I will more than be able to back up what I state; but that will be after the beginning of the year. Without the knowledge of my processes, all others will fail, and have failed; that is a scientific fact.

Well all I can say is that you look like you are doing the trolling and bashing, while using unscientific, unreliable methods. Can you argue that? The answer is NO. The proof will be next year on YouTube, further proof will be when the buyer openly states that all that I have said is the truth.

There is the possibility that the buyer will not come out and show the public what they have purchased, the reason why, will be that they will realize that their scientists, and many of them, will go down in history books as great scientists for the discoveries that they will make from my discoveries. For that reason, I don't blame them, if they wait a little while before announcing stuff to the public.

I don't really care if you don't want to wait till I get paid to get proof, I will do as I please. What I have are facts, all you have are theories and unbelievable amounts of misguided hope and waisted energy from what I have seen.

In the first place, all of the stuff you have done so far is worthless on this thread and will continue to be so. Why? You aren't approaching it in a scientific manner, that is why.

If you are going to forcast earthquakes, then you had better use science, not mumbo jumbo that has nothing to do with the Earth itself. Of course, these people have been kind to you all this time, but now, after all this time most of them have finally figured out your post is a train wreck waiting to happen.

Yes, I'm a scientist with a closed mind, when you can't offer any scientific proof that what you are doing can never be repeated over and over and over and come up with the same answer; that is what science is all about.

I don't care how many worthless techniques your friends have communicated to you, unless you and everyone else can come up with the same answer or reaction everytime, then you are waisting your time. I've done far more research than you can imagine, what you are doing is waisting time, not really research; unless you want to call your research "How to waist time trying to predict earthquakes with methods that are good 1 out of 200 million times!"

You state that "a true scientist will tell you that there is no way to predict earthquakes". Once again you are completely wrong.

A true scientist will state whether or not he/she knows how to forecast earthquakes accurately or not, or if he/she doesn't know how it could be done, but if it could be done they are currently aware or unaware of how it is done; then their statement would be correct.

On the other hand, any scientist out there that says openly "that there is no way to predict or forecast earthquakes accurately, is simply a scientist that is personally making a complete liar out of themselves, and after the beginning of the year I will show the world why they have made a complete liar out of themselves. I'm not calling them a liar, they are personally making a liar out of themselves. Many scientists in the past have done this, thats too bad, lots of people have died needlessly because of stupid idiots like that.

You ask: "why do pigeons all land just before a quake hits.... why did thousands of frogs attempt to flee the destroyed area of sichuan quake, before it hit???" To answer your question, I'm not for sure "all" pigeons land just before "each and every quake"; you would have to prove that, and I know you never will.

Can you prove that all the frogs were attempting to "flee" before every earthquake? The answer is no, and there are millions of dead bodies of people in grave yards because the pigeons and frogs didn't roost or flee before an earthquake.

Such occurrences are extremely spotty, and are very rarely repeatable, now if you could show me where it happens 13 or more times a year when all the big quakes hit, then you might have something, otherwise you are waisting your time.

Yes, you have been on that thread a long, long time; too long. ATS is here for people to find out the truth, and people can bash people anytime they want in a friendly manner, and you do a fairly good job yourself, but you are waisting your time, and you yourself know it, but you just can't let go, your inner self just isn't quite able to tell yourself, enough is enough.

You'll never be able to pinpoint where an earthquake epicenter is, or its depth, or its magnitude, or when it is going to strike using your methods that you describe; there is nothing scientific or continuously repeatable in the methods you use.

This is your thread, you prove it to us that what you state can be used over and over and over and continuously come up with the right answers or conclusions to the epicenter, foci, magnitude and when it will strike; where is your list of successes to all of these four categories?

Are you going to tell us you are sure an earthquake is going to hit, but you don't have a clue as to where, or when, or with what magnitude; boy-oh-boy that will sure be helpful to lots of people (sarcasm big time).

You cannot predict an earthquake at all, unless you can give the answer to all four categories correctly and continuously: epicenter, depth, magnitude and when.

I hate to beat a dead horse, but what you are doing is going nowhere.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by RussianScientists
Comrad "kattraxx" the equipment detects "silent earthquake" precursors well in advance of the actual earthquake. Understanding how it all works makes 100% accurate earthquake forecasts easy. You will have to wait till the videos come out on YouTube to understand it all.


This thread is devoted to alternative methods of earthquake prediction. We and our readers do not need to understand exactly how anyone's method works. We are interested, but needing to understand is not so important to begin with. We look at posted predictions, which give a time frame, location, and quite often an expected magnitude. If any poster achieves some successes that appear to be beyond the range of random chance, then we become more interested in his or methodology, but even then, it is up to the poster to decide how much to reveal about methodology.

So far, you have stated that your method is 100% accurate in predicting earthquakes. You are the only person who has posted in this long thread to have made such a claim. None of us make claims of perfect accuracy -- in fact, neither do weather forecasters, in spite of the resources they have available. We would all be delighted and relieved to know that there is at least one person in the world who can predict earthquakes with 100% accuracy, but as you have not made any predictions here or even referred us to any published predictions you have made elsewhere, then we cannot determine if your claim has any validity whatsoever, let alone complete validity.


You my dear lady are a NEWBIE to ATS, you'd better check your activation date compared to mine, to ensure your future statements are correct before broadcasting. As you state; you should always walk the walk, before you can talk.

I've walked the walk through tens of thousands of successful experiments spanning decades, so don't fret about my future, because my future is bright!


I believe the difference in time between when you and Kattrax joined is a little over two months. You, she and I are all relative "newbies", but even so, the time of joining ATS is not a birthdate or a reflection of one's life experience. As for walking the walk, we have been making predictions and logging the results, both successful and otherwise. We ask that you do the same. Surely if you have done tens of thousands of successful experiments then you can "walk the walk" make a few predictions? You do not need to reveal how you obtain your data, just post some predictions, specific to location, time and magnitude.

We are not so much concerned about your future or even our own, but the future and lives of people who may be grievously affected or who could even die as a result earthquakes -- and whose lives might be saved by being able to forewarn them. I would hope that your priorities are the same.


People out there trying to use bodily ailments, moon phases, strange animal activity, and other things not directly linked to earth processes are beating a dead horse in trying to predict earthquakes; these people are "GUARANTEED TO FAIL" in their predictions.


Well, we are not "out there", we are active here on this thread and have been for some months. We have had some remarkable successes and they are documented within this thread. So, failure is not guaranteed.


The only way to scientifically forecast earthquakes accurately, is by detecting abnormal pressures within the Earth itself that are scientifically conclusive of an actual connection of an upcoming eartquake using scientific equipment.


I for one could not care less whether a person's methods fall into the category of "scientific" or not if their predictions give results that exceed those of mere chance. Even if they can achieve (for example) 30% accuracy then I would consider that far better than what exists within the scientific community at large right now, as they are highly averse to predicting earthquakes with specificity and prefer to give advisory guidance to probabilities, with time periods often covering decades for larger, highly-destructive quakes. Such information is interesting but hardly useful in helping people to protect themselves from a quake that might strike within a few days.


Where would the weather forecasting industry be today if they were using bodily ailments, moon phases, and strange animal activity to forecast the weather? They would not exist, if that were the case. By using scientific equipment, weather forecasters can detect future trends and give accurate forecasts.


Trends, yes. Accurate forecasts -- yes, within a given margin of reliability. But they do not claim 100% accuracy in what they do. You do.


The difference between weather forecasts and future earthquake forecasts are: that earthquakes don't move, making it easier to get 100% accuracy; whilst the weather is constantly moving and involves many complex anomalies making it harder to forecast in certain areas. So, in the near future, earthquake forecasts will be extremely reliable.


So you are saying that "earthquakes don't move". I don't completely understand you. In any case, the interrelationships between the various plates in terms of energy and movement are extremely complex and in some ways are analogous to the way weather systems operate. You yourself have stated that subterranean pressure in one place can cause quakes hundreds or even thousands of miles away. Without knowing in detail all of the relationships between all plates and fault systems, how is it possible to predict quakes with 100% accuracy? Are you saying that you have obtained complete data of all the tectonic interrelationships of this entire planet?


If I saw a weather forecaster on TV showing what part of their body was ailing, and there was a quarter moon, and their cat peed on the carpet again and they used those sequences as their anology to predict an upcoming rain in a couple of days, or maybe a snow storm; that would be the end of watching TV weather forecasts for me and billions of other people; we rely on science, not foolish notions.


We both know that meteorologists have access to a huge database, with inputs from many thousands of stations around the world, as well as data from satellites both in the visible spectrum and outside of it, so your comments here seem rather facetious.

To conclude: you clearly have some knowledge of seismic systems, and we welcome that. You claim to have 100% accuracy in predicting earthquakes and this is a thread on earthquake prediction, where predictions are posted and the results are posted as well. We understand that you intend to produce a series of videos to be published via youtube next year that will explain everything about your process; meanwhile, there will doubtless be major earthquakes and people will suffer and die because no-one forewarned them.

This thread presents you with an opportunity to provide at least some published evidence that your methods are effective and I personally cannot understand why you do not take advantage of it and perhaps help to save people's lives. Surely that has to be of importance to you? If you would rather not post here on what is now such a long thread with so many other predictions already logged on it, then you could start your own thread and post your predictions there, thereby making certain that all credit and attention will be directed towards you as the OP. I am sure none of us would mind as this is not a competition, after all. We'd only ask that you would allow us to refer interested readers to your thread to view your predictions and the results that confirm your accuracy. I am sure that within a very short time, when the word of your success gets around, you will get thousands of views and many posts in support. But whatever way you choose to go, please make some predictions.

Mike



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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OK "comrade.... whatever", you once again fill us with doubt on what we do, becasue YOUR method is THE ONE AND ONLY method, and It is guarenteed, and will change the world.......

I am willing to bet you are about 15 with a crazy imagination... I never stated that you are not telling the truth, only that words with no proof, are just words, NO MATTER HOW MUCH OF A WORLD CLASS SCIENTIST you "think" you are..

I dont beleive a single word yuo say, because you are trolling to try to disrupt a thread that UNTIL you arrived, was pleasant and a lot of good information was being compiled.. I dont care what YOUR opinion about our methods are, if you dont beleive, than dont, and LEAVE.
If you want to contribute to our thread, please do, in a NON, "my way is the only way".... lol ha ha ha, that just makes me laugh, kind of way.

we dont EVER tell someone on this thread that there methods are false, and we ALWAYS supplY ANY PROOF (DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF THIS WORD????) that we find. I never said that ALL pigeons land before ALL quakes, but yes, right before any of the larger quakes we had here in reno, every roof in MY neighborhood (at epicenter) had pigeons landed, and landing, during the quakes (some hit when i was outside), there were NEVER, I repeat NEVER any birds in the sky till after the shakes....
maybe not "proof" you seek, but definite accurate observations, and dont forget we had the swarm going on for over 3 months, so when you are constantly shaking, you notice all the regularities, or iregularities that occur around you.

tell me why hours before the larger quakes (3.2 and above) we had, all the ants were going crazy, scattering all over the place, and flooding out of the ground?????? I guess insects cannot pick up on vibrations in the ground right?????

All we are asking for is some proof, or just stay quiet and end your posting. You call yourself a scientist, and with what I have read on your "weapon" thread, and on here, I doubt your honesty, and intellect.

SHOW ME 1 factual case that you can predict...... u2u me with a location, depth, and magnitude, and when it hits, I will tell everyone you are right, and will apologize. otherwise, your " magical predictions", are just as valid as people talking about aliens, or ghosts, etc.

Here is your test.... If you cannot or willlnot participate, than you my friend, are knee deep in it.

I truly think you are just a young kid who wants to discredit a very good thread, that has gotten many kudos from mods, and until your arrival, was ALWAYS pleasant to read.

there is only one thing you can do, so I expect to not here from you anymore, as I know what you talk about is absolute rubbish.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 02:53 PM
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I tire of this troll.

I say use our Ignore buttons and get back to business.



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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I haven't been having any precursor signs but its been a crazy weather week and I've been concentrating on that instead of my body and it's possible signals. Oregon's been pretty quiet too though I do believe there was one larger offshore earthquake in the past few days. I'll check my websites and report back if there is anything.

Tela



posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Comrad "JustMike" you aren't anybodies fool, that is for sure; and I like how you handle yourself and how you come across.

Yes, this thread is interesting for people now and in the future to look back on and see that people had crazy notions, and hopes.

I'd like to see some "REMARKABLE" successes that you and others "think" are remarkable; but are you telling me they are so remarkable that you will use those successes in the future to go out and save peoples lives with them?

You state that you want to save lives, but are your methods ever going to save lives? Be honest with yourself when you answer that question, and when you state that "failure is not guaranteed". If failure is not guaranteed, then lets see "one" accurate forecast from all of you, just one from the thousands of you that might be looking in on this thread.

For your prediction to be remarkable, it must be continuously repeatable in the furture, and we'll need the magnitude within a limited but specific range, we'll need to know "exactly" where it will hit, and we will need to know within 24 hours, plus or minus, when it will strike, but days in advance for a successful evacuation to occur; the depth to the epicenter is needed to be known also. If any or all of you can give that type of information, then with your willingness, let's see it. I can say scientifically that your current knowledge is a guaranteed failure to give such accurate information.

A 30% accuracy in forecasting larger earthquakes is not good enough for anyone's earthquake forecast; it has to be very near to 100% or 100% in order to be good.

What do you think would happen to an economy if you evacuated large cities for 3 days in advance and nothing happened 2 out of 3 times? The economy would fail there, and people would move away from that region, if it were an earthquake prone region.

Your research and thinking hasn't gone far enough down the road, not that I'm pointing a finger, but you must look farther ahead; and you will see where I'm coming from.

Do you know what it would be like to have someone forecast three 8.0+ magnitude earthquakes to strike three different major cities over the years and only one of them struck out of the three forecasts?

The "terror" that you would have put those people through in the other 2 major cities, where the 8.0 earthquakes wouldn't occur, letting them think that everything they had would be gone from the resulting earthquake and possible fire afterwards, and possibly their job might be gone; its something you can't put people through. You would stress so many people out, that they would kill you for putting them and their loved ones through an ordeal like that; and they would be in their right mind for doing it.

I understand why all of you can't understand why I don't take advantage of making predictions for you at this time; but I know what I'm doing, it has to be my way, just be patient, and you will all find out why when I put the videos on YouTube.



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