An Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction

reply to post by wasobservingquietly


WOQ, I have 2 cats as well. One is 7, and one 17. The 7 year old has been acting mental for the past 3-4 weeks. Running wildly thru the house at breakneck speed, back and forth back and forth, jumping half way up the wall, at nothing in particular. Leaping at the sliding glass doors, and there is absolutely nothing on the door at all that he might be chasing such as a bug or gecko. I live in Fl and have a large screened in back porch and they have constant access to that area, but they do not ever go outside....ever.
Tonight though, my old guy, he did something so totally out of character for him I feel compelled to put it in writing here.
He is old, bless his heart and moves no where with any speed. He's been known to move so slow he doesn't actually make it to the litter box. His sluggishness warranted a trip to the vets a few months ago as we thought it might be getting close to that time. Turns out he is in good shape, all blood work was fine and no disease present. He's just showing regular signs of senior citizenship. We've had to put a stool by his chair so he can get up into it because he can no longer even make the jump up. He sleeps a lot and plays very little, this is not an active cat.

Tonight I was out shopping and got home at about 9:30 and walked up the walkway to the front door. When I opened the door the old guy bolted outside and RAN away from the house. He sprinted into the driveway, hid under the car and when I attempted to corral him, he just ran farther. He did not come to me or my son calling him and he made a bee-line for a row of hedges that runs down the side of our driveway. We had to literally corner him ( in the dark) in the bushes and force him out one and I had to snatch him up and he fought me every step of the way back in. I have a few puncture marks on by hands and arms from him. He's back in his chair, laying with his eyes open in an anticipatory manner , not sleeping and on edge.

I know animal behavior sometimes is a indicator. I have not really had any reason to think these cats were picking up on anything . The younger cats behavior, although manic as of late, did not give me pause. Tonight's activity lit a lightbulb and I remembered others here saying that their animals have symptoms. Logistically I am a good clip away from any action, but this behavior was so off the wall it has me wondering.

reply to post by Cherryontop


Where is you general location.....

And no, I am not a spook

reply to post by Cherryontop


I'm so glad you were able to catch your cat.
When they get scared, they could run for a long time before they stop!
I think whatever they feel it must hurt or bother them,
& they don't understand something they can't see!

From the looks of our posting times, I posted about an hour
before the 6.0 off the coast of Chile.
Yours was even closer, less than a half hour.
Florida is so close to the same latitude,
that maybe it's easier for them to sense it.

I've noticed on the seismos, quake activity shows much better
& more often on any near the ocean, lakes, places with cavern
in the site name etc. Because water is a better conductor?
So...with Florida having water all around it, & I don't even know
about it's aquifers, they are probably able to feel it much easier too!

Young cat, (probably less than 2), was trilling & scratching me
again as I started to type this. Old cat, (don't know how old,
we've had him 16 years, both are rescues), is STILL under the desk!!!

I just 'branded' two of my knuckles feeding the woodburner.
In 29 years of having one, I've never done that.
I do get clumsy sometimes before good sizes ones but....
sometimes it's just staying up too late reading ATS & being careless!!!

Sure hope there's not another one the way!
Hubby is so exhausted from all this quake activity!
WOQ

My GoM & oscillating Kamchatka, Japan, Alaska, PNW earthquake dreams aren't sticking in my memory if I'm still having them. I've made a point of listening to a lengthy binaural track as I go to sleep, for more restful sleep. I'm sure I'm still dreaming, and I've indeed been getting relatively restful sleep, but I cannot remember ANYTHING about my dreams. I've been listening to these tracks for quite some time, this particular one included. I'm mystified as to why I'm suddenly unable to recall my dreams after falling asleep to it. It makes me a little uneasy purely because that's never happened before. Perhaps I should try a different track.

As for tonight, I can't get to sleep no matter what. I just can't. I'm feeling antsy (not normal for me) and "off". It could just be from being very tired, but I'm not sure. Something feels "off", and I'm not sure what, exactly. My inner skeptic is skeptical of itself tonight, if that makes any sense...

Morning all.... Hope you all slept well. I'm just checking in with a couple of little weird things. Didn't sleep so good the last couple of nights, generally no symptoms, but was very stressed yesterday.

You guys talking about animal behaviour got me thinking. I have a dog, an 18 month old Staffordshire Bull Terrier..generally, he's a little honey, very obedient, well behaved, easy to train, and the training is ongoing at his age. Yesterday he scared the bejesus out of me, and I honestly though for a few minutes he was going to bite me, and bite me badly. I was in the hallway upstairs, trying to go downstairs, and he just went mental, trying to nip at my feet, growling and snarling and showing his teeth. It was a fight to get downstairs, and basically I had to shout him down. It earned him an hour in the cooler (his crate), while I got ready for work, and some very strict discipline lessons for the rest of the day. He's his usual perfect self this morning, and it just might be the canine equivalent of the terrible twos here, but I though it was worth noting. This is the second time he's done this. The last time was on the 1st of November. Hopefully there won't be a third.

I have no physical symptoms at all but this left me on the verge of a panic attack all day. I have a docs appointment tomorrow for blood tests to see if there is any cause for the anxiety...just crossing things off the list here. Sweet Home Alabama is still there, every day, and something Lasertaglover said hit a chord. His daughters dream about Detroit being on the edge of something kinda corresponds with what I see...this notion of edge, of a very wide fault forming and changing the landscape, with water running over it, like land has totally split. Makes me think of the Rift Valley, but I know it's not Africa I'm seeing.

Hope you all have a happy stressfree day.

reply to post by caitlinfae


Good luck at the doctor. I had a stress test, ( treadmill style), ear pressure test, (they inserted plugs that applied pressure then took a measurement), and iron, mono, and whatever else they check in blood, nothing.

I have been diagnosed with anxiety issues and now I feel like when I go in I am labeled. They just tell me to deal with it. Or the want to prescribe a pill, no thanks.

As for "feelings' today, I woke up well rested and clear headed again. Yipeee! Time to get some long put off chores done around here.

reply to post by radpetey

I'm on the east coast of FL, over by the space center.


reply to post by wasobservingquietly


I will def pay more attention to his behavior in the future.

Hey all, since at times I personally feel that solar activity can influence my eq feelings, thought I would post this update from Solar Ham.

Updated 11/13/2012 @ 14:40 UTC
Solar Update
Good morning. Solar activity has been moderate with three M-Class solar flares, each around Sunspot 1613 located in the southeast quadrant. The largest of these flares was an impulsive M6.0 event at 02:04 UTC. The solar X-Rays have settled down somewhat over the past several hours with only C-Class activity detected. At least two minor Coronal Mass Ejections are visible in Lasco C2 imagery, but each appear to be directed to the south and east and not towards Earth. There will remain a chance for M-Class solar flares, particularly around Sunspots 1613 and 1614.

Geomagnetic activity after the CME impact did reach close to minor geomagnetic storm levels, however things have since returned to more quiet levels.
www.solarham.net...

Plus there is the Total Eclipse of the Sun down south to consider.

Feeling the same as when I reported in yesterday.

Hope all of you are well.

Peace

reply to post by Doodle19815


Hi!
Don't you just love/hate how when they can't find a diagnosis
that fits 'inside the box', they want YOU to take pills!!! Aaaaah!!!

Hubby & I have been there, done that, done that.......
I was misdiagnosed for one thing for 13 years, until I finally
had to be life flighted 150 miles away!
The specialists there couldn't believe it had been missed so long,
they asked what was wrong with the doctors in my area!

Well, let's see...do you have an hour for me to go through the list???!!!
Same with hubby. I'm sure it said hypochondriac somewhere on his chart!
They make you feel like you have a problem, when THEY are the ones
that can't diagnose it!!! I wish they had to hang their class ranking on the wall!!!

But we finally found a doc who knows her stuff & is great!
It only took hubby two appointments to get his answers & one for me!
I always thought an older doc would have more experience,
and would have seen a lot of different things.

But for us, it was a young girl,who just graduated and came back home
to set up a practice, that had our answers!
She allows an hour for an initial appointment, half an hour for other ones.
She LISTENS, doesn't rush, or belittle our concerns!
She's up on the newest findings, alternative treatments and such.
And she doesn't think pills are the answer to everything!!!

I would sing her praises from the roof tops!!! But then she might get too busy!!!
Everyone should be lucky enough to find a doc like her!

Anyhoo...I'm posting because I'm so antsy, I'm almost jumping out of my skin.
And I have so much energy today! I wish I could bottle it!!! It's great!
And it's a good thing because I have 100 pounds of sauerkraut that need canned!!!

I'm hoping it has to do with solar flares & not quakes!
WOQ

Solar activity still remains fairly strong today with a 65% chance of M class flares and a 15% chance of X class. We are getting a minor hit from the edge of a CME.

I also hope that is what is making me feel edgy this morning. Normally I wake up a bit later and just go through the normal morning routine of getting three kids ready for school, but I was at the USGS site before my eyes were totally open, followed by Space Weather.

Minor ear ringing throughout the day yesterday, and only one so far this morning. Pressure is up a little bit, but man oh man am I feeling on edge this morning.

Peace

reply to post by lasertaglover


Thanks for the information about the solar flares. Maybe that's what I'm feeling. I'm a bag of nerves today, and have a doc appointment in less than an hour....I hate needles! But I have to have it done. Just posting to log some symptoms. High anxiety, probably due to needles........ribs hurt, hip hurts, skin hypersensitive to touch.

Hope everyone is doing ok...will read more later...can't really concentrate just now.

reply to post by caitlinfae


Today I definitely am relating to your mention of high anxiety. Very rough for me today.

Good luck.

Peace

reply to post by caitlinfae


I would be interested to hear about your ribs hurting and sensitive skin. I also experience these symptoms. If someone was to poke me in my ribs playfully it would bring me to tears. Had xrays done and nothing.....

My skin is silly sensitive. If I bump into something it hurts for hours.

(Fibromyalgia has not been ruled out. But I understand the testing to be extensive with little treatment choice.)

Also note that it comes and goes.

reply to post by Doodle19815


Welcome to my world of confusion and pain...! Seriously though, I've been struggling with this for years, the sensitivity, the pain issues, the IBS, how inconsistent it is, the panic attacks.....I'm in this thread to see if there is perhaps an external influence, however unlikely, that would affect me.

I'm very psychically sensitive too, and can pick up on feelings, thoughts and emotions that other people wouldn't recognise if you hit them on the head with it. I think I've always had this different kind of awareness, but I would say in the last year or two, it's got completely out of hand. Work stress was a huge contributing factor, (I fixed that) but the physical symptoms are insane...almost constant joint pain that seems to move round my body, and can sometimes seem to be referred pain from a sore hip. Ribs hurt like they've been squished out of place. Elbows and ankles are frequently the worst. My skin is a nightmare. The slightest touch when I'm "turned up" is unbearable, and even the slightest touch will make me flinch. I also have massive sensitivity to bright lights, loud noise, and confusing noise, like two sources of music, or two people talking at once. If I'm very stressed, that alone will send me into a panic attack. Fibromyalgia is at the top of my list too, but I haven't mentioned it to my doctor yet, as I'm aware that it's a diagnosis of exclusion, and I need to know there isn't something more serious going on.

On the plus side, my mum is a cardiac nurse with huge experience, I mean decades, so if I had any real heart issues, I'm sure she would spot something. The symptoms I have are so inconsistent, I'm certain there is nothing too sinister going on, but what the source of the pain is, I just haven't a clue. I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs, no prescription meds, I'm very careful about my diet, vegetarian, loads of veggies, not too much dairy, no processed food, or very little, and I did have a huge improvement when I stopped eating lentils, and commercial bread...we make our own spelt loaves at home now, and maybe get through one a week. My IBS has more or less gone, and most of the leg pain that went with it. Yup...it was so bad the pain went right to my ankles some days.

Still I cannot put my finger on the source of my anxiety, and there does seem to be a lot of synchronicity here with place names and feelings we're all having. Maybe the very fact that we are so physically sensitive to our environments makes us ideal earthquake sensors, if that's what we're actually doing. There is a great book by Elaine Aron called The Highly Sensitive Person....I ticked every box on her checklist, and her hypothesis is that a percentage of us are simply wired differently, and pick up on and respond to stimuli differently from the rest of the population, which makes us very useful, but also can make life intolerable for us until we learn to manage it. I'm sure there is a thread on ATS somewhere about it, so I will try and dig it up for you. Again, if we're all hypersensitive here, maybe that's why we're getting the sensations about seismic stuff, and all the emotional upheaval involved.

Perhaps this conversation is a lovely piece of synchronicity in itself...I'm worried sick about blood tests, and embarrassed myself and my boyfriend infront of the lovely nurse by totally melting down, tears and hysteria and everything, over a piddley little blood test. Maybe your comment has given me the reassurance I need that they will find nothing wrong, I'm just a bit more strange than I realised, and it's actually quite useful.

I hope you're feeling better today. And Laser...you too...sounds like you're having a tough time. If I can help at all, let me know. Remember....nothing you want to say here will be seen as too weird...


Elaine Aron's website

reply to post by caitlinfae


I could hug you right now! You sound so much like me.

Like I said previously, I feel like I just get labeled with anxiety issues. Though I have had several tests run, ( at my request). I hate it when I go in with a new problem and they blow me off.

Anyhow, thank you for your post. I don't talk much about my problems because my family just tell me to calm down and stop stressing. Friends don't need to hear about it.

Blessings for being open about it.

reply to post by Doodle19815


I totally understand about your need to be reserved. I would never have mentioned fibro at all if you hadn't prompted me. Thank you for the synchronicity. I don't give coincidence much weight, so the fact that you mentioned it is significant for me.

I still strongly believe that some of us live on a slightly different plane of awareness, not better or superior, just different, and respond to the physical world much more acutely than the majority of the population. We really do need to learn how to manage the world around us so it doesn't become overwhelming, and to develop assertiveness about what we sense and feel. It's all very well for "scientists" to say this, that or the next thing can't possibly exist because it can't be measured or otherwise quantified, but I'm sure the same would have been said about electricity and antibiotics at some stage. If science says there is nothing physically wrong with us, and we have no sign of mental illness ( I know I don't ), then the source MUST be something external.

Meanwhile, the symptoms continue. Sore ribs, a bit anxious, just exhausted really, but maybe due to this afternoon's events at home.

reply to post by caitlinfae


Thank you very much. Two of my three kids had major behavior issues over the last two days, which as an empath Dad it is hard for me. So I do appreciate it.

On a different not, my right ear started ringing ten minutes ago and has not stopped.

Peace

reply to post by lasertaglover


Funny you should mention that.
Oldest daughter was 'not herself' today either!
That was about an hour before the one in Chile today.

I think she has some of the same sensitivities as hubby.
Although she would never admit it!
It has matched up twice before.
Somehow it just feels like something bigger is in the works though!
WOQ

The feelings have all crept up onto the level that I am going to say that I believe a large destructive eq, around an 8 or bigger, will happen within the next three days.

Been wrong before, but the pressure, the ear ringing, the feelings are all there.

Hoping I am wrong.

peace

reply to post by lasertaglover


I hope you're wrong too, but I kinda have to agree...I feel anxious to the point of pain today, and feel a bit like I'm sitting on a bomb. Ribs are very sore, and I have that kind of anxious, wobbly, antsy feeling I really don't like.

Stay safe everyone and keep posting, no matter how weird.