Shalom and Happy 60th Israel!

reply to post by Skyfloating


Attitude? If by that you mean my opinion that we should not blindly support Israel when it goes against our own interests or the general peace and stability in the region - then yes, that is my attitude. If by attitude you mean my hope for moderation and conciliation over constant threats and violence, then yes - that is my "attitude".

Versus yours, which seems a bit condescending.

*Sigh* Let's just meet in that field beyond right and wrong, I'll be waiting.

[edit on 16/5/08 by kosmicjack]

reply to post by Skyfloating


Agreed, but we all know it's the 10% who runs this world, they are the ones the 90% have to address. The question is how.

Not by violence, I hate violence, but I love justice.

[edit on 16/5/2008 by khunmoon]

reply to post by kosmicjack


I knew we´d have a confrontation on this someday.

Look...both of you...

do you know how difficult it is to talk a level-headed world with the Hamas?

Seriously.

reply to post by Skyfloating



And those who try (no name mentioned) get ridiculed.

Look, when I was young --about 40 years ago or so-- we were socialist (that wasn't as bad where I come from as it was in America), and the hotest thing a young person could do was to go to Isreal and work in Kibbutz.

Israel was seen as a socialist country back then, and I do think Golda Meir, Ben Gurion was another kind of people than the leadership they later had.

For me it changed with the attrocities done/allowed by the Israelies in Shabra/Chatila under the ciommand of the later PM Ariel Sharon.

Look at him now, second year in coma, the poor fella can't even die.

reply to post by khunmoon


yes...there´s so much to say on this multi-coloured subject, but if we start, we´ll still be talking in one year.

Should you ever open a thread on the israel-palestine question, please let me know. Id be happy to provide an angle thats unpopular on ATS.


To Kosmicjack: Sorry if I offended you. Be well.

reply to post by Skyfloating


I am not gonna oprn any thread on a hornets nest ...and be cornered as racist, anti-semitic or worse, cause I am not. Like I said I'm for justice. That's all.

Yeah, thanks for the rant.

Happy Birthday Israel..

"Live Long and Prosper"



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