no need to worry man.
if you believe it is the end, that may happen.
it is the end of the mayan calendar, and the start of whats called the golden age (where people born 2012 and after will literally have golder skin -
makes sense to me, all people do these days is tan but it will be natural)
and as far as i know 2012 is when society will calm down and figure out our problems automatically; such as (down here in Aus) the drought and current
petrol prices - we will think of methods they may not resolve them instantly, but help us eliminate the problem over time.
but no apocalypse this time round!
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 03:51 AM by flice
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
nono... you have to wrap it up as x-mas presents, since the world ends the 21st. We would have just about time enough to come collect them before x-mas
Please adress all girlie items with merry x-mas to my sis Thea 
nono... you have to wrap it up as x-mas presents, since the world ends the 21st. We would have just about time enough to come collect them before x-mas
Please adress all girlie items with merry x-mas to my sis Thea 
reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 05:03 AM by timelike
reply to post by joshwah
I don't think the world will end no. It's just the usual pilfering of ancient cultures by cranks today to support "their" pet conspiracy theory be that aliens, the new world order etc.
It's not a new phenomena by the way, people have predicting the end of the world for centuries, there are many classic examples. In each case the world carries on regardless!
I don't think the world will end no. It's just the usual pilfering of ancient cultures by cranks today to support "their" pet conspiracy theory be that aliens, the new world order etc.
It's not a new phenomena by the way, people have predicting the end of the world for centuries, there are many classic examples. In each case the world carries on regardless!
reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 06:55 AM by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by timelike
Dude, that's just it. Point of view. It's relative to US. Her post about the alignment is taking that into account.
Same relative point of view, and the fact that we (planet Earth) and all the other planets spin around, that brought us the astronomical idea of the 12 zodiacs, is also bringing you this 'galactic alignment'. The precession of the equinoxes. Familiar? We are about to enter the Aquarius sign due to this. This alignment bit is based on the same stuff...
This is the Galactic Alignment: From our perspective, our Sun (solstice), is aligned (crosses) with the center plane of our galaxy. This is astronomical fact. But this alignment isn't as significant as some think, as the preceding solstices to 2012 are only marginally different then the 2012 solstice.
The Mayans had our point of view in mind when they watched the stars as well.
Dude, that's just it. Point of view. It's relative to US. Her post about the alignment is taking that into account.
Same relative point of view, and the fact that we (planet Earth) and all the other planets spin around, that brought us the astronomical idea of the 12 zodiacs, is also bringing you this 'galactic alignment'. The precession of the equinoxes. Familiar? We are about to enter the Aquarius sign due to this. This alignment bit is based on the same stuff...
This is the Galactic Alignment: From our perspective, our Sun (solstice), is aligned (crosses) with the center plane of our galaxy. This is astronomical fact. But this alignment isn't as significant as some think, as the preceding solstices to 2012 are only marginally different then the 2012 solstice.
The Mayans had our point of view in mind when they watched the stars as well.
reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 08:46 AM by timelike
Thanks for clearing that up, however there are still many errors:
Well not quite. You see the sun actually passes through 13 constellations, one of them being Ophiuchus which for some reason is not counted as a zodiacal constellation so I don't see how any system which only takes account of 12 constellations can work when the sun actually passes through 13.
Next, our Sun is not called solstice. Solstice is derived from the Latin sol (sun) and sistere (to stand still) as the sun appears to ceases all motion in declination at this point. Now when you say the Sun crosses the Galaxy, the rotation of our system around the galaxy is about 220km/s, but the velocity perpendicular to the plane of the galaxy is 7km/s, this means that the sun almost orbits the Galactic Plane but not quiet.
Well quite, though they had their own reasons for doing so, it does seem that the Mayan calandar has been adopted by some people who insist the world will end in 2012. However, it is hard to take any of it seriously when much of the basic astronomy is wrong.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by timelike
...the fact that we (planet Earth) and all the other planets spin around, that brought us the astronomical idea of the 12 zodiacs, is also bringing you this 'galactic alignment'. The precession of the equinoxes. Familiar?
Well not quite. You see the sun actually passes through 13 constellations, one of them being Ophiuchus which for some reason is not counted as a zodiacal constellation so I don't see how any system which only takes account of 12 constellations can work when the sun actually passes through 13.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by timelike
This is the Galactic Alignment: From our perspective, our Sun (solstice), is aligned (crosses) with the center plane of our galaxy. This is astronomical fact. But this alignment isn't as significant as some think, as the preceding solstices to 2012 are only marginally different then the 2012 solstice.
Next, our Sun is not called solstice. Solstice is derived from the Latin sol (sun) and sistere (to stand still) as the sun appears to ceases all motion in declination at this point. Now when you say the Sun crosses the Galaxy, the rotation of our system around the galaxy is about 220km/s, but the velocity perpendicular to the plane of the galaxy is 7km/s, this means that the sun almost orbits the Galactic Plane but not quiet.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by timelike
The Mayans had our point of view in mind when they watched the stars as well.
Well quite, though they had their own reasons for doing so, it does seem that the Mayan calandar has been adopted by some people who insist the world will end in 2012. However, it is hard to take any of it seriously when much of the basic astronomy is wrong.
reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 02:23 PM by NephraTari
reply to post by timelike
I was simply sharing some theories that are out there. there is no need to get rude.
I was simply sharing some theories that are out there. there is no need to get rude.
reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 03:10 PM by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by timelike
I wasn't saying the Mayan Long Count calendar uses the 12 zodiac signs
I was using that as an example to elucidate the how and why they used space to create their calendar.
And sorry for the confusion, I was not trying to equate the 'Sun' with 'Solstice'.
And yes there is an alignment. Relative to us. It will be this way for 700 or so years. This is just astronomy.
I wasn't saying the Mayan Long Count calendar uses the 12 zodiac signs
I was using that as an example to elucidate the how and why they used space to create their calendar.
And sorry for the confusion, I was not trying to equate the 'Sun' with 'Solstice'.
And yes there is an alignment. Relative to us. It will be this way for 700 or so years. This is just astronomy.
reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 03:57 AM by timelike
reply to post by NephraTari
I was displaying distate for the theory not you, however reading the message again it does indeed look rude and so I do apologise, that was not the intention.
[edit on 17-5-2008 by timelike]
I was displaying distate for the theory not you, however reading the message again it does indeed look rude and so I do apologise, that was not the intention.
[edit on 17-5-2008 by timelike]
reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 09:00 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by joshwah
The year 2012 will be very normal.
There will be another presidential election.
The economy will be very strong.
A republican will be elected president.
It will probably be McCains VP.
December 21, 2012 there will be disclosure about the Roswell 1947 UFO
crash. After people absorb that shock, the rest will be disclosed
to the american people and the rest of the world.
In 2013 we will use the incredible advanced technology to travel
to the asteroid belt in about 20 minutes. - Nonlinear time -
A colony will be established on the moon.
A very large orbiting space station will be constructed.
It will clearly be a new beginning for mankind.
The year 2012 will be very normal.
There will be another presidential election.
The economy will be very strong.
A republican will be elected president.
It will probably be McCains VP.
December 21, 2012 there will be disclosure about the Roswell 1947 UFO
crash. After people absorb that shock, the rest will be disclosed
to the american people and the rest of the world.
In 2013 we will use the incredible advanced technology to travel
to the asteroid belt in about 20 minutes. - Nonlinear time -
A colony will be established on the moon.
A very large orbiting space station will be constructed.
It will clearly be a new beginning for mankind.
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