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Originally posted by AllSeeingI
I agree. God is a childish superstition. If I could I would outlaw all the worlds major religions. They are what holds us back from advancing to a more utopian scientific future.

I saw a great bumper sticker the other day which I totally agree with it read: "God is your imaginary friend."

Obviously God and gods were simply beings with advanced technology. If we were to show our tech to cavemen, they would worship us as gods.

[edit on (5/13/08) by AllSeeingI]

It's too bad you feel this way. I'm willing to bet someone religious talked you to death and turned you off along with all the TV preacher controversy of today. I can understand why a lot of folks take this position.I believe in Jesus Christ but I do not like organized religion as it stands these days.

It's just that too many churches have half truths and get all wrapped up and talking a certain way and being motivated out of guilt instead of grace and so on and so forth. Not only that but they have failed to even convey the pure form of the message, they have failed in really getting deep into the real story of what the bible says and is.And what it really says my friend is that a genetic war took place a Genetic/DNA war.AS far as beleiving scripture is valid in the first place.I find things that prove its been writtin outside of time as we know it.And the fact it goes along with this whole abduction bit too.
We can find certain scriptures that do correlate with other sources of history that would confirm that certain prophecies have in fact been fulfilled. Believe it. Not only that but the bible tells us in a few passages even about the Angelic entities mating with humans and having hybrid offspring.It describes in Hebrew upright shining and glowing serpent like creatures in the garden and somewhere around this point is when the Gene/DNA war began.Through understanding some of these simple truths of the bible it sheds light on the Alien and abduction subject.And there are many other things to be gleaned from this truly inspired book to much to cover here now of course. Not only do these truths make plain a lot of issues it's all set in what essentially is a love story. the entire bible simply documents the wars over mankind soul and DNA and then Gods answer to it all... his love story that became what we call the new testament.Even all the killing everyone brings up in the old testament was simply to wipe out hybrid blood lines they were part angelic part human beings and if you want my take on it. that is still what they want.A being that is fully fallen angel and fully man at the same time the Beast I suppose you could say.Are you following this?Do you see the stark contrast to the truth of what the bible is saying, over how religious people make it sound.That whole "Jesus" on a fluffy cloud thing... Jesus is exactly who he says he is and I don't think he's flying in on a cloud though.Any way I hope this sheds some light on some things.Oh and as I was saying above and beyond all understand that the God of the bible at the end when all is said and done says he will share his throne with us if we simply acknowledge his sun and declare the love story to be the ultimate act of love and truth.In the mean time many of you will prefer to call these fallen angels Aliens and pay homage and fall for there tricks of light and think they are in fact our creators which they are not! Thats the whole reason God the creator got pissed off I think they may have gave us this Carnal nature part though(DNA experimenting with us).You get it? It's a great story man no one like 2000 or even 5-6000 years ago could make that stuff up and it be so interwoven the same messages over in over no way! Think about it without all the bias.Seems most people have no real concept that the bible portrays a war over DNA lines in the old testament and of course the love story of the ultimate Human/Creator hybrid or Son.... Jesus

Originally posted by Double Eights
If we are a creator's masterpiece, he must be one god awful creator. We are far from perfect, and far from being called a "masterpiece."

And if there is a creator, who created him/her? And for whoever created our creator, who created that creator? It could go on and on and on and on and on forever.

It's best just to realize religion is bunk and god is just your imaginary friend that you use to make yourself feel better. Like George Carlin says "It's all bull# folks, and it's bad for ya."

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What is wrong with us my friend?

We are concious beings experiencing something wondrous. Our bodies are perfect for the experience because they wither and die. This is the only way we, as conscious beings could progress. Otherwise we would be stuck in the generation which bore us for each, though laced with difficulty, seemed better than the last. Though we have struggled and fought, we have uncovered many many mysteries along the way. Each generation is a giant step forward of this perfect being called Man.

Where do you see a flaw?

Don't look back at what we were...

Look forward to where we are going.

But make the now that vision.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by AllSeeingI
Obviously God and gods were simply beings with advanced technology. If we were to show our tech to cavemen, they would worship us as gods.

[edit on (5/13/08) by AllSeeingI]

Well said.

Here's one of my favourite quotes of all time;

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

I'd say it fits the logic of your comment perfectly.

Originally posted by johnsky


Realistically, if there is an all seeing all powerful god... he would grant access to a "heaven" to anyone who does the right thing for the sake of it being right... not because they desire for heaven for their own selfish needs.


Imagine if you died, and a powerful being asked you "why did you strive to do the right thing?", you answer "Because I want to go to heaven", and he tells you thats self centered, you're going to hell.

Meanwhile the agnostic walks up, and answers "I did the right thing for their sake, not mine." and is immediately permitted in.

My thoughts exactly, who does the greater good?:
An atheist or agnostic that opens doors for old ladies,
or the nostic that believes in opening doors for old ladies because that is part of their ticket to heaven.

Religious people are selfish because their main concern is their own souls, you can go to hell for all they care.
An atheist who does good works is the most genuine person in the world, who works from their heart, not for a reward.

And of course, this whole 'the Jews are gods chosen people' BS, of course they are going to print that, it makes their people more special than thou, and better than their enemies, they have the power of the Universe on their side to conquer you with.

Or perhaps they were bestowed better genes through alien genetic technology?
Don't know.

Anyhow, look at the world today, Israel gets away with murder and all sorts of attrocities, and western nations assist them militarily and financially simply because it's the religious nut job politicians that are securing their ticket to heaven to protect chosen people and land.

Wow, what a way to protect your butt, threaten eternal burning in hell if you go against the chosen ones.

These beliefs are dangerous for all of humanity, look what is going on now.

PS, johnSKY where are you?

For a guy like Einstein, who treated his wife like %£"%, he's just revealing things some would not be keen to hear about.

I wonder if he abandoned his work on unified fields theory because it was in fact his wife who influenced him big time!
When she wasn't around, (when he left for the US) his work foundered to a standstill compared to the heady days of 1900 - 1907...

Einstein believed in god but did not believe in organised religion.

The one group that fits is Deism
though he never said he was a deist his writing put him in that group with George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson

Originally posted by AllSeeingI
If I could I would outlaw all the worlds major religions. They are what holds us back from advancing to a more utopian scientific future.

What nonsense.

There's no us, and it is precisely this totalitarianist mindset to ban everything and think in terms of us, which is the result of the inability to handle differences (itself an expression of emotional immaturity) that has held the world back, and it has a word: tribalism.

Tribalism and its sister, intolerance, are the most primitive traits of man since his nervous system first began developing. There is nothing more unscientific then this, and you should read the letter closer: Einstein pronounces his opinion, but never threatens them with violence to ban or make their mental commitments thought-crimes.

As for the letter itself, as much as I admire Einstein, he has had some mind-scratching opinions on topics outside of his normal area of expertise (but then again, like Feynman said, you shouldn't expect us scientists to be any more knowledgeable than the common joe on other topics), and this letter has to be taken into context i.e. he clearly rejects revelation and the anthropic traits of a god, but Einstein was very much a believer in Spinoza's God (as are most physicists that i'm aware of, including me, except I have a more Christian flavor to mine).