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Originally posted by AllSeeingI
I agree. God is a childish superstition. If I could I would outlaw all the worlds major religions. They are what holds us back from advancing to a more utopian scientific future.
I saw a great bumper sticker the other day which I totally agree with it read: "God is your imaginary friend."
Obviously God and gods were simply beings with advanced technology. If we were to show our tech to cavemen, they would worship us as gods.
[edit on (5/13/08) by AllSeeingI]
Originally posted by Double Eights
If we are a creator's masterpiece, he must be one god awful creator. We are far from perfect, and far from being called a "masterpiece."
And if there is a creator, who created him/her? And for whoever created our creator, who created that creator? It could go on and on and on and on and on forever.
It's best just to realize religion is bunk and god is just your imaginary friend that you use to make yourself feel better. Like George Carlin says "It's all bull# folks, and it's bad for ya."
[edit on 13-5-2008 by Double Eights]
Originally posted by AllSeeingI
Obviously God and gods were simply beings with advanced technology. If we were to show our tech to cavemen, they would worship us as gods.
[edit on (5/13/08) by AllSeeingI]
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by lee anoma
Genesis 1
Genesis 1:1
In the Beginning (Time), God created the heavens (Space) and the earth (Matter). Let there be light (Energy).
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Originally posted by racasan
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by lee anoma
Genesis 1
Genesis 1:1
In the Beginning (Time), God created the heavens (Space) and the earth (Matter). Let there be light (Energy).
I was wondering why you misquoted genesis so I went and looked it up
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And now I know why you misquoted –it’s because it’s all wrong
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
no the earth wasn’t formed at the same time as heaven (assuming heaven is a reference to the rest of the universe) – the earth formed about 10 billion years later
1:2 the earth was without form, and void?
How can any material thing be without form and void –this makes no sense whatsoever
1:2 And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters?
Water what water? When did he make this and what’s keeping it liquid?
Originally posted by johnsky
Realistically, if there is an all seeing all powerful god... he would grant access to a "heaven" to anyone who does the right thing for the sake of it being right... not because they desire for heaven for their own selfish needs.
Imagine if you died, and a powerful being asked you "why did you strive to do the right thing?", you answer "Because I want to go to heaven", and he tells you thats self centered, you're going to hell.
Meanwhile the agnostic walks up, and answers "I did the right thing for their sake, not mine." and is immediately permitted in.
What you are trying (and failing) to do is make a Bronze Age myth somehow fit the current scientific understanding of the universe
Originally posted by racasan
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Nice try eddy – but it was you who posted the whole science/bible thing - now how about explaining why you misquoted genesis in an attempt to make it look like the bible fits in to the current understanding of science – an understanding which you now say is might be wrong anyway
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Originally posted by racasan
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Nice try eddy – but it was you who posted the whole science/bible thing - now how about explaining why you misquoted genesis in an attempt to make it look like the bible fits in to the current understanding of science – an understanding which you now say is might be wrong anyway
I guess you might be reading the "let there be light" part as Genesis 1:1. Let me clarify.
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
In the beginning denotes TIME.
God created denotes DESIGN and DIVINITY
the heavens denotes SPACE to hold matter
and the earth denotes MATTER
MATTER was formless and void (EMPTY / Unformed by information and geometry)
darkness (Chaos) was over the surface of the deep (Emptiness / Infinity)
and the Spirit of God (Consciousness / Great I AM) was hovering over (outside of the opening within) the waters (High state of order and low entropy)
And God said (Word / Information / Wave) Let there be light (consciousness / energy / movement / laws / intellect / inquiry / knowledge / wisdom / Discovery / Peripeteia)
edit on 8-1-2012 by SuperiorEd because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AllSeeingI
If I could I would outlaw all the worlds major religions. They are what holds us back from advancing to a more utopian scientific future.