posted on May, 17 2008 @ 11:24 PM
In reply to anonymous ATS:
0) The purpose of an athiest is the same as everyone else's purposes. Life is classroom for the soul an the athiest plays a part in this grand play
of duality. Suicide sucks and is a selfish and immoral way out. Everything has a purpose and is precious/priceless including you.
1) For you to say that you know that no one knows implies that you know everything about every person's, in existence, knowledge. That would require
some hard core computing power to be able to know what everyone knows.
2) If aliens exist, they are aware of God. For them to have the same intelligence or any other characterstic of God would require that chracterstic to
be infintely processed, being that God and all his aspects are infinitely never-ending. Sin and distractions are a whole nother matter...to be
answered in one of the next few numbers.
3) Yes God is beyond us, but also with all of us, and we all live within God. It's a matter of adjusting your vision, consciousness, and senses to be
able to see that God is real. He is personal and approachable. Anyone can accept fatality fine and dandy, but the issue here is that upon death you
automatically enter the after life. You cast of your flesh and continue as consciousness. In this matter you have no say as non of us do. We all will
continue on. God doesnt have that against you being a fatalist, because he knows this is where you currently are in your spiritual growth. Just like
when you have kids, even if they stay in a limited way of thinking, you will still love them and acceot them.....however I'm sure you give them a
nudge to be able to surpass the box their in.
4) Yes time is an illusion. Because of physical decay and the pull of gravity on matter, amongst other things...we have time. But take away solid
matter, gravity, and other factors and there is only the present moment. This has been spiritually spoke of around the world for millenia.
5) Your take on God not being perfect perhaps comes from the Old Testament which is highly controversial. Some early Christians say the God of the OT
is a demiurge and not the true 1 God above all Gods that Jesus came and represented. I hear you completely on this topic. Yet from my experience he is
perfection and he is experiencing himself through every possible possibility, both physically, spiritually, infinitely, eternally,
multi-dimensionally, and so forth.
6) You skipped number 6 and went to 7
7) Jesus couldnt have been the Anti-Christ. If you follow his teachings/precepts you will transcend yourself and enter spiritual enlightenment. The
anti-christ wants everyone to remain within vices, ego, addictions, lusts, anger, killing, evil and so forth. There is no Love in the anti-christ.
Judge a tree by it's fruits. Jesus' message was pure, but than evil dogmatists took it and polluted it with their own views and ways.
8) Jesus redeemed us from a fallen state. Something happend in the Garden of eden. Before, man kind had a 1 on 1 close and personal relationship with
God, we were in tune with nature so much so that people roamed with lions and tigers unscathed, we had access to spiritual realms and so forth.
Something happened and mankind got tricked into a fallen state....the Bible is simply symbolically telling of the trickery and fall of mankind. Is it
fair for us to inherit the fallen state due to adam and eve's mistake??? yes and no.
It's not fair because its their mistake not mine. At the same time it is fair because there are some actions by people that result in reactions that
affect others who had nothing to do with it. For example the atomic bomb affected many who were against all war and fighting...and so forth.
Because of adam and eve humanity is basically simply in a fallen state of spiritual sleep. Jesus came to wake people up. In this fallen state mankind
is no different than an animal or a dog succumbing to selfish lusts, emotions, addictions, egotistical, and other lower natures and vices.
Following spiritual precepts leads us to eventually transcending this lower nature completely and first hand experiencing God and pure Love.... and
restoring us to a state of being before adam and eve caused the fall. Plus in a way its a huge global interactive adventure as far as who wakes up and
who sleeps spiritually through out their whole lives.
Yes athiests and other spiritual sleepwalkers do show at times unselfishness, love, help others, for the sake of their kids or wives...will transcend
their own needs, and so on.....these are all proofs that within and all around us is a divine nature and spiritual reality. Its these little notions
that seperate us from apes.
9)Being created a human being is an AWSOME gift. If you stop taking existence for granted, every single breath is a mini miracle. Look around....its
amazing to be able to comprehend, and bring into the world a child, and strive for spiritual awakenings, and it goes on and on.
But being stuck in limited perspectives, addictions, lower animal nature, hatred, greed, ego, lusts...these are all traps that keep us down and keep
us sleepwalking to the ultimate reality that is all around us.
Monks in a monastery withstanding temptation is just one aspect of that life style. If you can withstand these things than you are master of your
self, if you cant than you are a slave to them. Monks are spiritual and self scientists. They study how far the psyche can go within God and when they
experience things, these experiences objectively corespond to the experiences of other monks...so we have objectivity.
It is possible to be perfectly humble. Spiritually speaking any virtues are possible to reach 100%. If chess player can reach master status through
years of study, so can mastering humblness be achived 100%.
You can try to be righteous, not harm others, and so forth, but you are still batttling with sleepwalking, and are still unaware of God. Worst yet is
being tricked by your own ego, your own intellect, and staying there for the rest of your life.
Again there is spiritual truth that can wake you up to if you read between the lines, and look past dogma. You can either try to be the best you can
be in a limited and sleepwalking state of being, or you can crush all your old limited ways into dust and take off like a soaring eagle on the wings
of transcendence and divine realities.
Once you experience the divine....you'll yell at yourself for not going through the change earlier in life. God is real