Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

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posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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I don't know whether to agree or not.

It would seem religion can be legislated against since it is the interpretation of what God wants, desires, wishes, or commands.

However, God cannot be legislated against since, in the very least, God is the philosophy which all men (yes, even the atheists and agnostics, pagans and Buddhists) find equitable and true.

Where one can find fault with religion, not one person can fault the philosophy of loving one another.




posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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OK, tell me this:

Where did everything come from? A big explosion in space? Where did the matter come from that exploded? Where did the space come from for the big explosion to take place in? You see I can do the same thing.

It's fine for people that don't believe to give opinion but by blatantly attacking my God and Faith you are referencing me indirectly. I've asked again and again, why can't nonbelievers at least show a modicum of respect. I'm not talking about all nonbelievers but this goes on daily here.

I will do my utmost to respect you, so please do the same for me.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:31 PM
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You make some great points.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Double Eights
If we are a creator's masterpiece, he must be one god awful creator. We are far from perfect, and far from being called a "masterpiece."

And if there is a creator, who created him/her? And for whoever created our creator, who created that creator? It could go on and on and on and on and on forever.

It's best just to realize religion is bunk and god is just your imaginary friend that you use to make yourself feel better. Like George Carlin says "It's all bull# folks, and it's bad for ya."

[edit on 13-5-2008 by Double Eights]


Nice Edit There... take out a curse word or so?

Personally I do not normally respond to those who use ignorance and vulgarity to emphasize their beliefs but... you did have some good points.

You did not read... we WERE the masterpiece. Mankind has to learn from his mistakes and that life is fragile. In youth we have to make the mistakes to learn from them we cant just be told no. We have to understand. Unfortunately Mankind is nothing more then a virus when greed attaches to it like a master and his puppet.

Life is a cycle. The creator was created by a creator just like himself but in the end result it was the same creator, the spirit lives on and the spirit world is so much more complex then this dinky physical realm we are in. I honeslty cant beleive how much killing people will do for a few pieces of Paper or Gold. All life is is a test. Those people fail. The ones that have calloused your heart have failed. Hopefully though you will see the voice of truth in your life. Otherwise ... Your spirit ends sooner then others and out of it is born another... hopefully it will make better choices of words



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by budski
who's to say he's NOT correct?

Me, because that is my opinion. I am still allowed to have one right?


Any belief system is just that - BELIEF.
Not right or wrong, it's about faith.
He had faith that he was right.
You, apparently have faith that he was wrong.

What's your point because that is what I said and I agree.


Are you saying that your BELIEF has more merit than someone else's?

No, that is not what I said.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:39 PM
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Who created God?

If it's impossible for space to just come out of no where, then it must be impossible for a God to just spring up over night.

Those who believe in a God fail to think logically, that's all there is to it. Ah yes, an invisible man who sits above me in Heaven, day and night, and listens to my prayers, yet never answers them. A little old man who sits above me day and night and curses people to death by instilling in them a notion that religion is real and that their religion is correct and those that disagree shall be removed from this Earth by way of wars and genocide. A little old man whom is so beautiful and just, ah yes, God!

Seriously, I am actually freightened that people believe in a God. Come a diasterous scenario, and instead of thinking rationally and logically, you people will be sitting on your knees hoping the big man will send you down some help......it ain't gunna happen.

Those of you whom are Christians stole your bible from the Old Testament. A STORY that included a talking snake that lured Eve into eating the forbiden fruit. Now I ask you...since when do snakes talk?

"It's bull# folks, and it's bad for ya."

[edit on 13-5-2008 by Double Eights]



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:40 PM
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Classic battle of Science VS. Religion. Einstein obviously taking his own side.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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I already made a thread on this before all of you :p

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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Einstein said a lot of contradictory things in his lifetime.

Look on my signature below to fuel the fire of this thread.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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This thread could go on for days discussing Einstein's quotes on God — there are many.

WikiQuote

* I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws, but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but admire even more his contributions to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and the body as one, not two separate things.
o As quoted in Glimpses of the Great (1930) by G. S. Viereck There have been disputes on the accuracy of this quotation.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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Thanks for proving my point


You are saying his belief is wrong, based on nothing except your opinion (not PROOF mind you)
Therefore you are putting your opinion above that of someone else's.

Arrogance of the worst sort.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by Quazga
Man I can't stand the polemics that are thrown around by people who believe in fairy tales, condeming those who don't.

What?
How did I condem you? Oh right, I did not so please keep your sly silly comments to yourself.
Its all about what you believe, just like the fairy tale regarding man-made global warming.





You made an assertion that Einstein was *wrong* in his assumption on God, etc. It's one thing to say "Well, thats his opinion" It's a complete other thing to say he is wrong.

So now, who made the silly comment?



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 03:15 PM
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I am always amazed by those who will say, "Read the bible", when apparently they have not read it themselves.
If they would just read it like they would any other book, and see what it actually says, not what they have been told that it says -
They would see that their "god" is a human with a very nasty temper.
He is a psychopath of the worst order.

They see the serpent of Genesis as the bad guy/satan, but they do not see the serpent that Jesus referred to at all. He told his desciples, "Be ye wise as serpents."

Einstein no doubt had thoughts that he did not voice. Sigmund Freud's studies led him to believe that Egypt's Akheneton was Moses.
The studies of scholars have shown that what became judeo-christianity came from Egypt. Psalm 104 is almost word for word Akheneton's "Hymn to the Sun". Yes, indeed - judeo-christianity is Sun worship!

Some deeper thinking along with observation of history and current times should show you that religion was set up as a control system. It keeps the faithful fearful and obedient.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by johnsky
And he certainly wouldn't want people in there who exclude others for having a differing point of view.


Then God "himself" doesn't belong in Heaven


Oh... do as I say... not as I do... right? God the Father, how fitting.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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Well i agree with Einsteins thoughts on god most likely being an abstract God, hes saying that humans version of god is flawed because humans are flawed!



Best quote from Eintein.

"Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind."

[edit on 13-5-2008 by midtown5dw]



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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All men are born equal, only some are more "Chosen" than others

But seriously, why would "God" even have a "chosen" race? Wouldn't that make him racist? What has race or even religion got to do with good and evil? What is the point of free will if "God" made his choice long ago?



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by budski
Thanks for proving my point


You are saying his belief is wrong, based on nothing except your opinion (not PROOF mind you)
Therefore you are putting your opinion above that of someone else's.

Arrogance of the worst sort.


So using your logic, people who believe Einstein is correct is also putting their opinions above someone else's. Are they arrogant also?
If your answer is no, they are not arrogant, then that is actually arrogance at it's worst.
Just because you have a different opinion does not mean one is arrogant. So please get over yourself.

As for proof, well the Bible is one item that could be offered as evidence since a lot of the people and places in the Bible were real and proven so.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Quazga
You made an assertion that Einstein was *wrong* in his assumption on God, etc. It's one thing to say "Well, thats his opinion" It's a complete other thing to say he is wrong.

So now, who made the silly comment?

Do you agree with Einstein?
If so, then you made an assumption that he is correct right?
It cuts both ways bro. It's a two way street.

If you think he is correct, then you believe he is right. Since I disagree then I believe he is wrong. I really don't see the point you are trying to make.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 04:25 PM
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It's nice to see people think that if religion was abolished then it would be a perfect world. Well, I got news for you guys it won't. You can abolish religion, but then leaders would find something else to fight about. Some people use religion as a means to invade another place and loot the gold. If religion is practiced right we would have peace. If there was no religion would we really have peace? how are you sure?



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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And he was 100% right about this? He had the inside line to the bottom line?

Enrico Fermi was Roman Catholic, Oppenheimer had his Sanskrit and Socialism, but that didn't stop them from producing the next generation of physics- nuclear.

So Einstein wasn't right about everything as many of these posters aren't and are.





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