Vatican: It's OK for Catholics to Believe in Aliens, page 3

Originally posted by Pjotr

I have a better question: WHAT is evolution.

That is something that is not backed up by anything but people's minds. Darwinian evolution, at it's core, does not have much scientific backing.

General evolution has a lot of truth in it, but your suggestion is it's something that it's not, so I'm doubting your grasp of what it is.

Biological evolution was simply left in a dark spot of understanding for a long time, and all the higher scientific minds knew this. Darwin's explanation (and if you know anything about this man, he was just a politician for the Philosophical Society's Athiest movement started by his Grandfather - just like the ideas where) doesn't hold ground in science.
Epigenetics is further proof of evolution WITHIN a species. All of these scientific facts can be twisted, because truth can always jump between two interpretations, just like the entirity of this reality is between a postive and negative charge. Darwin's explanation of species to species was something that made sense based on observed facts that we should be able to easily tell he twisted. A highly religious man when we look back (of course, an Egyptian like one), was pushing the Athiest movement while his family watched division in their comfortable riches? Obvious.

The Darwinan concept of species growth is speculative at best. It wasn't accepted by science at the time, and only after it was pushed for nearly a century through the obvious means, has it been common belief. Then after years of fighting, epigenetics finally breaks through as a practice (Too late though because most minds have been owned, and they don't even know what it is). Yet, there are thousands of scientists who officially denounce it. There are thousands who promote it and there are probably more that believe the whole argument is a stupid loop that is all bull# on both sides.
In an actual debate (I don't know if you've witnessed top debate teams argue this common debate for example), Creationist sides almost always win. And yes, you better believe logic is strengthened by science (obviously). So if anything, it looks like the opposite is true but really the debate is trying to argue two different forms of organized religions.

Do you know what the oldest story in the world is? It existed in every ancient civilized part of this planet.
It's that a superior race of being came here and genetically altered the existing lifeforms. The main goal was to create a slave race, which was us.
Now I understand that this is hard to believe because it goes against the enormous amount of experienced images seeped into the subconscious; but it's still what was believed by cultures that on some levels were more mathematically superior than us.

There's also outstanding proof (logic + literacy(of images or text)) which points to the fact that the story of creation in the Bible, and many more, are offsprings of these previous beliefs.

It's extremely naive to actually believe the Vatican believes in what they make us think they do/what they give us. I say make us think, because they often say what they believe, but what people think determines the interpretation of that.

So put that together (and yes it's an extremely simplified version of accounts) and the announcement of 'God created man out of apes' is nothing new, and the idea is just something they want to be official word at this point in time. Pretty significant.

Couple that with 'It's ok to believe in Aliens'.

Hmmmm.

Well sure, a more physical/illusionary minded person will not accept this, but the concept of Evolution vs. Creationism is irrelevant to all of this from that level. What created that accepted division within an illusionary state (I call a movie) is relavent, but clearly was not what you're talking about.

[edit on 14-5-2008 by 1nelove]