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Topic started on 13-5-2008 @ 10:14 AM by budski
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Fox News Caught Flashing McCain TV Subliminal
www.prisonplanet.com
 Fox News has been caught flashing up a subliminal image of presidential candidate John McCain during its TV intro sequence in what appears to
be a deliberate, criminal, and underhanded propaganda ploy.
Blink and you'll miss it, but the image of a smiling John McCain and his wife Cindy is sure to register in your subconscious as it flashes up behind
the logo of Fox 5 News, a Fox News affiliate.
Watch the clip. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:14 AM by budski
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FOX - says it all really.
en.wikipedia.org...
This is still bang out of order though, and is a clear, underhand attempt to influence through a propaganda tool.
www.prisonplanet.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:20 AM by mlmijyd
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Very good spot!
So does this mean that its official - McCain is the chosen US president puppet for the NWO elite?
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:24 AM by budski
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Only if the NWO runs FOX - and they surely couldn't be that dim, could they?
I wonder what the response would be if another channel flashed an obama or clinton subliminal - surely there would be calls for all sorts of nasty
punishments and investigations.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:28 AM by johnsky
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Good find budski
I can't believe people still actually attempt this archaic form of subliminal messaging. Especially on sources that are easily replayed to verify the
contents.
However, I'm not too sure it's really going to help McCain. You see, a subliminal message, without something to entice feelings of happiness or
pride, will only end up re-enforcing your pre-existing thoughts on the subject matter.
Alternatively, if your sub-conscious picks up far enough, your memory will place that image of John McCain along side images of bombings, death toll
figures, news about a coming recession... you get the idea.
They're not helping McCain out by placing his image up there... they're invoking your anger toward that image of him. Well, nobody ever said the FOX
team was intelligent.
So, yeah, go ahead FOX news, continue placing his image up there... no no, don't read up on how you're supposed to use subliminal messages...
you're doing a fine job... lol.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:28 AM by Dr Love
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On a side note but still on topic, I wonder if subliminal messages are the reason they're making everyone buy a digital TV. Maybe somehow the message
shown on a digital TV gets through clearer. Just a thought.
Peace
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:35 AM by mybigunit
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Originally posted by Dr Love
On a side note but still on topic, I wonder if subliminal messages are the reason they're making everyone buy a digital TV. Maybe somehow the message
shown on a digital TV gets through clearer. Just a thought.
Peace 
WOW very interesting thought I always asked my wife why it was so important to make everything digital....that is one good theory.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:36 AM by johnsky
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Originally posted by Dr Love
On a side note but still on topic, I wonder if subliminal messages are the reason they're making everyone buy a digital TV. Maybe somehow the message
shown on a digital TV gets through clearer. Just a thought.
Peace 
I'm not sure if you're referring to digitally transmitting the signal, or digitally displaying it.
If you're referring to digital cable, probably not. Digital cable has a habit of "ghosting" images that appear and go away too quickly. Leaving
parts of it on the screen. Not very effective if you're trying to flash it quickly.
The older analog cable transmissions are still your best option for this.
However, a digital screen, yes. They can achieve a faster refresh than traditional CRT's, and with a much crisper image to boot. So delivering this
form of subliminal messaging would be easier.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:39 AM by 44soulslayer
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Wow!
I was highly skeptical about this being true, but by god it is!
Ridiculous attempt by Murdoch to serve his NWO puppet masters methinks.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:40 AM by budski
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Perhaps this subliminal is aimed at the floating voters who have some sort of empathy for mccain?
I'm not sure what the floating voter percentage is in the US, but I'd guess it's those who win the election for a particular candidate, and with
that in mind, maybe it's aimed at them
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 11:04 AM by NovusOrdoMundi
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What a childish and stupid animation.
I usually watch my local FOX affiliate for my daily fix of propaganda so I'll look for anything similar. I don't recall seeing anything recently
though. If anyone else lives in the Detroit area and watches FOX 2, help me out with spotting this stuff.
On a side note, who are these idiots doing the digital editing? I'm not employed doing digital editing, nor is it my specialty, but I could do a
better job of masking that image than they did. Subliminal images aren't supposed to be sitting there saying "HELLO LOOK HERE LOOK AT US!!!" like
this one is. I know they attempted to make it subliminal but they failed miserably.
I don't consider AJ a credible source but its good he pointed this out so that (hopefully) people can see what a biased piece of BS FOX News is.
And for those that don't know much about digital editing, Paul Joseph Watson (article author) is right, its impossible for that to "accidentally"
have happened. You edit on a time line with key frames. On the time line is layers, such as a layer for the FOX logo, a layer for the background
color, a layer for the John McCain image etc. It can't just be slipped in unnoticed, and even if it could, it gets reviewed not only by the team of
editors, but by the producers/directors of the news broadcast as well as the head of the news affiliate and probably even the FCC (although I'm not
positive about this one).
It was deliberate. There's no way it was accidental.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 11:27 AM by IvanZana
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Originally posted by Dr Love
On a side note but still on topic, I wonder if subliminal messages are the reason they're making everyone buy a digital TV. Maybe somehow the message
shown on a digital TV gets through clearer. Just a thought.
Peace 
I have analog, digital, and High def, on 3 diffrent sets. uUpon watching the same channel I found that Analog is the quickest, comes in first,
digital is about 3 seconds behind and HD 1-2 seconds behind that.
So in reality, Digital and HD is really not live, its about 5-8 seconds behind, plus the FAA mandatory 10 second delay gives the MSM slmost 20
seconds advantage over reality.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 11:36 AM by Scramjet76
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Subliminal images aren't supposed to be sitting there saying "HELLO LOOK HERE LOOK AT US!!!"

I agree with your post, however I'm not sure McCain even gets spotted without modern libs using modern computer technology to slow down the frame
rate (and bring light to it all via the internet). Was it that obvious? There's no way I would have picked out McCain merely watching TV at the
"normal" frame rate. Whether my subconscious would have is another question..
Anyways, I've never been impressed by FOX news or any of the major media outlets. They rather do a story on Obama not wearing a flag pin than
covering Unconventional Vehicles in our skies. 
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 11:38 AM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by budski
FOX - says it all really. 
They've been very fair to Hillary .. at least that what the dem blogs and the Hillary sites are saying.
As for Obama ...  He's making too much fodder for anyone to ignore.
(Except MSNBC apparently)
QUESTION - I looked at the link - which picture is the one that showed up? The faint one or the very clear one? I'm confused as to which one it
was.
Thanks.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 12:33 PM by budski
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The pic is quite hard to see unless you slow it down - but it's there alright.
A real subliminal.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 01:35 PM by kinda kurious
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OK everyone can calm down.
I believe my 30+ years as a professional videotape editor might be
able to qualify my personal opinion on this.
As is often the case, this particular "News Open" was produced so that it could be "keyed" or "supered" (super-imposed) over other footage.
Typically images from upcoming, topical or timely news items.
For example Countdown with Keith Olberman on MSNBC opens each and every show in this format with the VO (voice-over) saying "Which of these news
items will we be talking about.....blah....blah.....blah.") while visuals of upcoming stories flash about the screen.
Had the pre-packaged news open continued without cutting to live anchors on the set, there most likely would have been a "parade" or "montage" of
newsworthy images in that portion of the screen. ( The pre-produced graphics open either contains an "alpha-channel" (kinda like Photoshop has) for
a "hole-cutter" or it had "super-black" which would allow the images to "Key-thru", "Cut-thru' or "Bleed-thru" the graphics open. Obviously
the T.D. (Technical Director) of the newscast cut out of the open graphics package a few frames (video has 30 frames per second) too late and hence
the "quick cut" of McCain. Had he/she stayed with the open I am pretty certain other "newsworthy" images/footage would have followed.
(Perhaps a cat stuck in a tree. ha ha)
Flame me if you want. But that is how/why I believe this happened. I would bet money that the news open recorded from any other night would cut to
live anchors at a different time and either show more of the "open" with montage or less of the "open" and no montage and prove my point.
Simply put, it was a random "button-push" by a human being during a live, local newscast.
If you are thinking this was "tachistoscope" Like flashing hot dogs and popcorn to a captive movie theater audience, that is quite something
else.
en.wikipedia.org...
regards . . . kk
P.S. I am an Obama supporter BTW and I detest FOX news.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 01:44 PM by budski
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OK, so that's one explanation for it being an accident, and one against.
I've never seen such an accident before, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
The most damning piece of evidence for me, is this is fox.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 02:05 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
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Originally posted by kinda kurious
while visuals of upcoming stories flash about the screen. 
The John McCain picture is the only picture that appears. Any why are they showing that? What is relevant about that picture that it needs to be
there?
Maybe you're right. Maybe someone pushed a button too soon and it cut to the anchors and cut off the animation. But from what I saw of the animation,
I saw no indication that they were going to show any other images in that animation.
And that image is so out of place. It makes no sense whatsoever.
If we can find the whole animation and there are other images in there, then fine. It'll make more sense.
But as it stands now, the image appears so out of place that, factoring in that its FOX, it makes it seem like a failed attempt at subliminal imaging.
You have 30+ years on me in digital editing, as I am just beginning, but at least in my opinion, based on what I know, it seems out of place.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 03:42 PM by budski
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Agreed, this looks to be a tad more sinister than a mere "simple mistake"
Especially as fox is involved.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 04:05 PM by kinda kurious
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< Zombie Voice On >
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm......Must Vote For McCain.
< Zombie Voice Off >
I love a good conspiracy as much as anyone.
In fact upon further review I think I have confirmed something "more sinister."
Bad Editing. The two clips ( Graphics Open + Anchor Standup/Tease) were
edited together. (poorly)
Listen to the hard cut in the audio from Open to Anchors (music). Also, pay close attention to the animated Logo bug lower left corner during anchors
clip. Under the rotating logo, the clock shows 10:14. If the show open is as it says, and began at 10pm. How did 13 minutes vanish? I will tell
you how. The "magic" of editing. Someone spliced the two clips together thereby trimming off the end of Graphics open leaving a frame or two of
the Geritol wonder-boy and married it to the Anchors clip 14 minutes into their segment.
Thanks for pushing me harder to seek the truth.
Sorry, my first analysis of a late "live-switch" was in error.
My assessment: The two clips were badly edited together.
Can you all see/hear what I mean?
Who did this or why?...... I have no idea.
BTW, I gleaned most of this from the "comments section" of link provided.
I wish I could take all the credit.
regards . . . . kk
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