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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 05:19 PM by HatFoilTin
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thanks for replying to my question guys, and i can promise you that if i ever get
to try it it won't be nothing bad/negative.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 05:36 PM by Cyprex
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This is very intresting, im watching the video now.
After reading the thread, and watching half of the video, it reminds me a lot of the The Law of Attraction, and "The Secret" movie. It works in the
same basic way, with the same rules/guidlines.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:19 PM by Yarcofin
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I've only ever made one, but I think it works.
I made a sigil to make me more money, specifically win the lottery. I read a few pages about making them and then followed the instructions exactly,
and spent time "powering it up" next to my lottery tickets, etc.
I didn't ever win the lottery, but that night after when I came home from my part-time job (I created it that afternoon), I had an offer for a job
that paid DOUBLE, out of nowhere. I consider that a successful result of making me richer, even if I had to work for it  .
As many references advise though, you probably want to put in the generic "cover your ass" clauses (You will not do harm to me or any other person
to achieve these results, you will not create any negative effects, etc.)
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:23 PM by DocGonzo
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I saw the Grant Morrison vid a couple years back,and decided to try this.
Morrison is an awesome comic book writer and is very good at putting the occult into layman's terms.
Basically,I got $100 dollars (which is what I asked for),and a few other life changes that weren't exactly small by any means.
For those who worry about karma and the occult ,and the implications of using them,sigils are really just a......well sort of a Representation of your
own will.
They really just use your own creativity to manifest the things you will into existence.
Ok.....not sure if I'm making sense so I'll just mosey on back to my corner now.
One more thing....for anyone who enjoys Grant Morrison and is into existentialism and the occult,check out his comic "The Invisibles".It is one of
the most amazing stories I've EVER read,and it even has some conspiracy theory stuff in there.
Cheers,
Doc
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:24 PM by Vanitas
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It also brings the "if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you" quote to mind. Probably just supersticious nonsense

Considering that it comes from a man who did nothing but gaze into abysses and was eventually swallowed up - or should I say looked
up? - by one, I wonder...
Slightly off-topic, but not much...
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:28 PM by SystemiK
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I'm a bit confused about the "forgetting" part. I spent some time creating a sigil which represents something that is very important to me, I put
a lot of effort into it and I really dont see how to simply "forget" what it represents. Much easier said than done....
Any suggestions?
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:37 PM by TheBandit795
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Do something totally different immediately after your sigilzation excersize. You should be carefree about the whole thing and non-needy (which is of
course, easier said than done).
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:38 PM by Cuhail
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Do the thing where you meditate, masturbate or dance wildly to it (your choice  ), then, after committing to it....burn it. Then, forget about it. Do
something completely mundane. Paint a fence. Wash dishes. Do a crossword. Just put it out of your conscious mind because you've already committed it
to your sub-conscience, which will do all the real work.
Get it? You need to destroy the image you created and meditated on. Another technique was to use kids watercolor paints and paint the sigil on your
chest (or whatnot) and then, once commited to the sigil, take a shower and let the running water just sluice it away while you stare at it. This burns
it into your sub-conscience and you have no real need to ponder it further. Just forget about it.
Cuhail
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:46 PM by Yarcofin
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Originally posted by Cuhail
Do the thing where you meditate, masturbate or dance wildly to it (your choice  ), then, after committing to it....burn it. Then, forget about it.
Do something completely mundane. Paint a fence. Wash dishes. Do a crossword. Just put it out of your conscious mind because you've already committed
it to your sub-conscience, which will do all the real work.
Get it? You need to destroy the image you created and meditated on. Another technique was to use kids watercolor paints and paint the sigil on your
chest (or whatnot) and then, once commited to the sigil, take a shower and let the running water just sluice it away while you stare at it. This burns
it into your sub-conscience and you have no real need to ponder it further. Just forget about it.
Cuhail

I was under the impression that once you burn it, it's destroyed. From what I had read, you keep it in a safe place and it's very important you
don't let anyone see it. You don't burn it until it's no longer needed. Alternatively you can "program" into it to self-destruct after a certain
date or once it achieves it's goal.
I read that you should always destroy your sigils once they achieve their goals or they will keep growing and growing and eventually take on a mind of
their own... although that may have been some kind of disinformation.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:46 PM by Yarcofin
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Sry, double-post
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:53 PM by Cuhail
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Here's an explaination....
Mookychick
4. Ground yourself
Destroy the sigil (ie burn the bit of paper that it's on). Now do something completely different. Do the washing up. Go for a bike ride. Do something
completely grounded in reality. The sigil is over, done with. You don't care any more. Your subconscious might care (the bit that's still doing the
magic) but you and your conscious mind are now totally uninterested.
Cuhail
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:07 PM by Yarcofin
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Sorry, maybe what I created was actually a "servitor" rather than a "sigil".
I didn't just write down some letters and re-arrange them and turn them into a symbol, I created a BEING with a whole set of rules and laws.
Is there a huge difference between the two?
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:11 PM by theRiverGoddess
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ok I just watched the Grant Morrison google vid.
VERY INTERESTING stuff and believable. He said many things I already know, but schooled me in some things as well. I had my son watch it to.
So I just now made 2 sigil signs for myself on hot pink post its.
Its all good....it can happen or not......my life goes on either way and I like it allot.....things are good and I am greatfull for the goodness.
We shall see what comes of this.
I experience the coming into fruition all kinds of things I put on lists......
I don't get what people are saying about 'powering up' there sigil mark though and I hope someone explains.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:14 PM by FewWorldOrder
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Alright, let's say I have a friend who is having a hard time lately (whatever..., financial, drug problem, etc.). Can I create a Sigil to help my
friend or does it work only for oneself...?
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:14 PM by Cuhail
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TRG,
Ya ever make a wish before blowing out birthday candles? Same deal. Ya CAN'T TELL or they don't come true.
They're personal.
Don't tell.
Try it again, but, don't tell us what you're majicking for.
Cuhail
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:17 PM by theRiverGoddess
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well DANG Cuhail I just thought of that and edited it out......
is it totally ruined?
Can I just make a new sigil for essentially the same thing?
And if NO ...
WHY NOT as this is my true wish to majik up?
WHY must it be secret?
I thought I should share so that if and when it came true there was proof that I majicked it up......I thought that was WHY this thread....so we can
see how we progress.....
Gads my blonde hair tickles my brain and gets in my eyes.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:23 PM by Cuhail
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Honestly, I don't know. I haven't done it yet, but, it's soooooooo interesting I'm going to try tomorrow when I have the house to myself and
quiet.
I have been reading a lot of info pertaining to sigil magic since coming across this thread today and from what I have gleaned, yes, make a new one.
It can, I believe, be the same sigil and the same directorate, but, keep it close. I have no trouble believing what you tell me in the future
regarding any results. The proof is personal, I believe and you have nothing to prove to us if, indeed, it works.
My $.02
Cuhail
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:27 PM by Cuhail
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Originally posted by FewWorldOrder
Alright, let's say I have a friend who is having a hard time lately (whatever..., financial, drug problem, etc.). Can I create a Sigil to help my
friend or does it work only for oneself...? 
I would think the selfless magic you propose would work BETTER that that of a more personal nature.
Do it. Don't tell him/her. See what happens.
Right on, by the way!
Me thinks you are, indeed, a good friend.
Cuhail
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:11 PM by Hollow-X
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I have a friend who is also down on his luck... he lives in my University town and I am not there for the summer and can't be there to help him
through his issues. I think this will be the perfect way for me to see if A) the sigil will work, and B) i can help improve my friend's life. Plus, I
feel more comfortable using my newfound "powers"  for others.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:15 PM by Earthscum
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Originally posted by DocGonzo
For those who worry about karma and the occult ,and the implications of using them,sigils are really just a......well sort of a Representation of your
own will.
They really just use your own creativity to manifest the things you will into existence. 
Good point. To extend that thought, if you are in need of incorporating numbers into your sigil (I don't recommend it... numerology has it's own
powers...), you can manifest the numbers in any way you see fit. Certain sigils you see but probably aren't aware of use repeating instances to
signify numbers, such as a certain number of stars, or rays of light. I'd definitly learn about the significance that numbers play in everything
around you before doing such, though. From my own dabbling in majick, numbers mainly signify a set outcome... and alot of the time that outcome has to
take a set path, thusly acting like a bulldozer through buildings... that certain path isn't as flexible, and that is when karma gets you and
paradoxes occur.
I really wish I would've kept some kind of journal so I could remember what I've done sigils for in the past... you really do forget about them
after they've manifested themselves if you don't keep notes on it.
From what I've understood, the supposed 'Necronomicon' was supposed to be a guide for raising and binding demons using their ancient sigils. It's
been so long since I've read it, though... and I didn't go mad, btw... or maybe I did and don't realize it, lol.
A good book to read for the application of majick is Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible. It ultimately comes from Crowley background, but it covers some
techniques that have come in VERY useful.
One technique that I've found for banishing your space is stripping down naked. If you aren't comfortable with yourself being naked, you can cover
yourself up. The way I use this is that I am exposing myself and create a mental vulnerability issue. Dwell on that vulnerability and open yourself
(mind) up as much as vulnerability as possible... I like to walk out into the living room, or stroll through the house. Once you are confident that
you understand your vulnerability in physical AND mental, then you prepare your space or person by building an effective 'bubble'. Some motivational
speakers talk about the "Happy Bubble" that you can create to ward off negative people. Anyone who has sold vaccuum cleaners or other door-to-door
sales will most likely have heard this.
Basically that technique is the same as doing geological survey before building a skyscraper. You have to know your vulnerabilities before you can
cleanse your space. The better you focus on blocking out any outside disturbances, the better the sigil or majick in general works. That is the whole
reason for rituals. Whatever ritual works best for you is what you should use.
So, what I can remember about my use of sigils is that I have never written (consciously) a sigil. I'm one of those that are REALLY attentive to
geometrical shapes of nature. I see birth to death not as a circle, but a spiral leading to another unique spiral... triangles in leaves, etc. I've
wished for something and basically saw a natural sigil in front of me, be it in the clouds, grass, pavement, or buildings, and noticed that it will
manifest itself again when the 'deed is done', so to speak.
Ok, I'm babbling now... just want to make one finalpoint that can't be stated enough... in doing majick of ANY KIND... wish noone harm at all...
unless it is your particular wish, but remember that same majick can come back to haunt you and will manifest itself in a karmic way, whether
purposely induced by another, or through the reverberations of your outcome. On that note... if I could catch any of the warmonger leaders practicing
majick in this manner, I would probably impose deliberate karma (and suffer the consequences, as long as it benifits the earth as a whole in the
end)... use the masters own tools to dismantle his house.
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