Your Sigil Results, this stuff works!

Originally posted by survivor
i have so far made 2 sigils so far and they seem to have worked.
I dont want to be too specific about them except that will say that i created mine on my desktop using ms paint and the 2nd was created using the microsoft font wingdings to give it a more pictorial form which for me is easier to visualize.

this is just the word "example" nothing fancy but you see what i mean.

hope this is of help to someone else.

many thanks to *all the posters* here for contributing on this extremly interesting subject.

I have to say that I think using wingdings for a sigil is one of the greatest ideas I've ever heard. I'm not a magician...but I am a thinker LOL. And if the goal is to take the meaning out of the letters until they're just a picture, I don't think there could be an easier way of doing so. Great idea!

p.s. I tried my first sigils the other day. I'll let you know the results.

reply to post by survivor


Paint or wingdings are definitely effective means of sigil drawing. Sometimes I feel that maybe there is some tangible quality lost but at the same time just imagine the electromagnetic field distortion! I use a CRT screen so I like to think that way!

Can't remember the name but there was some software available that was meant to do the same thing as a sigil if stared at. I'll try ad find a link.

Good luck with them, DO NOT say what you asked for before they work but do tell us the results afterwards!

[edit on 22/5/08 by Kupios]

i've found something here, a sigil creator which might be of use to someone.

Sigil creator

Some summary thoughts and observations on the subject from my personal, but admittedly novice perspective. Remember, my first, one and only Sigil has thus far worked. Hopefully, some of you trying it out for the first time too might gain something from this. It is so new, our brains have a hard time knowing even how to talk about it.
First, I am not religious, superstitious nor one who believed in magic.
I could never get my brain around the notion of "4th dimension" or anything along those lines (until maybe now).
My wish was simple and practical, but pressing: overcoming a "block" I had which was preventing me from doing a task I really needed to do. This block had been with me for over 6 months.
Once chosen I basically thought no more about the wish, but focused on doing the Sigil, which was frustrating. I did a page full of unsatisfactory Sigils and then gave up with a headache. I then forgot about the Sigils and went on with my day.
About three hours later I found myself tentatively approaching my task and then spent a good 3 hours hacking away at it. Again the next day - the same thing - at least 3 hours.
I had not even the slightest thought about the Sigal until later in the second day, long after I had stopped work - and then realized that I was doing what I had not been able to do for months and that something dramatic had happened.
I have to tell you, my gut reaction upon realizing this was "this is spooky!"
Not only was I doing what I had dreaded starting, but I seemed to have the patience of Jobe! Normally I do not have patience and want everything done "yesterday". I worked smoothly and effortlessly at a slow, steady pace, experiencing almost no hardships (tho it was hard physical work).
I am still working at it and enjoying it. I will probably not do another Sigil until I am done this project, but will, thoughtfully, at some point.
One other strange and unexpected thing that happened was that when I was struck/ almost dumbfounded, by the realization that this worked, I had a strong sense, for the first time in my life, of a wholly different pathway or space (as if in another dimension), thru which my desire/wish traveled, and gathered force or energy, to finally come out the other end and result in change in my own life. Once begun by me, it continued completely on its own without any further effort or involvement on my part.* Like I said, I had actually completely forgotten about it, thinking I had failed to do it right.
I can't say how profound the impact has been on me. It is like having a door opened to a whole new world of possibilities. There's more to this life than I could have ever imagined.
I am afraid that it may seem like I am making too much out of a seemingly little thing, but basically, I just see this as a new area of exploration and learning. I hope to learn more not just about this "other dimension" but about power behind shapes, symbols. I can't wait to get "digging". And hopefully, with this new perspective I will be able to understand better what others are saying and doing too.
* edit to add: While I did nothing myself while my wish was traversing this other "dimension" my sense was that it was being attended to in some fashion by forces there. To my own left brain this makes no sense, but thankfully, I've learned to look beyond that practical, but limited tool.

[edit on 22-5-2008 by wayno]

reply to post by wayno


Nice avatar! Glad to see you inspired!

I know your feelings at how complicated it can be to convey the magical feeling after a sigil has worked. Your view of it as other dimensional is quite appropriate! This shift in perception, a widening in fact, is in my opinion the most important thing to come from sigil practice. I too feel like I have lived a mental revolution and continue the sigil work lovingly partly out of gratitude for this.

It brings me immense pleasure to know you have gone through your own personal version of this!

reply to post by survivor


Most interesting! Not really quite sure what to make of it though. I have been aware of similar techniques for a while but it always scares me a little to dabble in such things based on knowledge, most profound knowledge, that I myself do not have.

I wonder how effective those sigils are compared to the methods generally discussed here. Anybody have any ideas or experience?

reply to post by Kupios


back at ya Kupios - nice avatar as well
I'm long overdue, but want to say thanks for starting this thread in the first place and for your untiring support and encouragement along the way.
Your efforts have paid off nicely to keep us motivated, and the mood around here positive - way to go!

I agree with those that said it was hard to make the first one interesting and magical looking. I went to the grocery store and saw they had colored paper and water colors, so thought that would make it more fun. It does! Instead of it being a chore to create one it has become entertaining and they look quite cheerful on the wall before being charged.

I noticed Grant Morrison said he has some old sigils that he keeps around because they are "slow moving". Any rules regarding whether to keep them or not? I have been burning them, I like the dramatic effect.

not to derail, ill post some images I made in a bit..

The sigil as an image apparatus is explored in this thread.

I just thought about audio being used as a mechanism also. It already is of course when you think about it.. (top 40 hits affecting individuals thought patterns etc.), but I'm talking personal construction of purpose driven pressure forms. audio alchemy

I got some ideas to post in ats music podcast. Not music, as structually defined, but audio locks that the minds key opens.?

I'm beginning to wonder... the ancients were obsessed with geometrical values and shapes. Enormous amounts of time were driven into forming not only monuments but plans on the ground - huge shapes and angular relationships. A book that specifically addresses this is "The Keys to the Temple" by David Furlong. I detailed his finding in a post here.

Could they be giant sigils of some sort? Or related to the concept's fundamentals? Think of the effort and energy that would have gone into these groundplans.

As an update to my earlier post about my first experiment (getting my laptop and my Wii - again in an attempt to have an immediately measurable result for myself) where I mentioned I had set out some goodwill since I had taken to kind of balance it all out for my own personal sanity....

I am happy to report that a friend at work (I had asked for one my work based friends to get some help out of a financial crunch he's found himself in) scratched off $1000 lottery ticket Wed.

So that's 2 for 2 at the moment. Not sure what I'm going to try next, but I'm going to take a look at that sigil creator program that was posted.

reply to post by MythMaster


That could still very well be coincidence. You need to conduct an actual test in a controlled environment before you can get any actual evidence. Until that happens, it's just an interesting story, and nothing more.

Reading this thread I decided to give it a go not really expecting much but I thought theres no harm in trying.

I wanted three things each varying in the type of thing really.

Out of the three things I wanted one of them was to win money in my university courses darts tournament. Yesterday I placed as a semi finalist and won £10 as well as a shiney medal lol.

Granted I was seeded 6th in this tournament so you could argue that It was always a possibility that I would get there but I was the only person to knockout someone seeded higher than me so who knows.

Could just be down to conincidence but who knows i'll see if my other two things come to pass as well.

reply to post by almeister 5000


Until you conduct an actual experiment in a controlled environment, reason dictates you chalk that up to coincidence. Saying it's anything else is massively illogical.

reply to post by dave420


hmm, although you've made it abundantly clear time and again that you think this stuff is all hooie, here you are still lurking about - after all this time
kind of reminds me of the evangelical who keeps reading every porn magazine he can get his hands on, just to support his position that its all bad

might one be struggling against a deep inner desire to break free of that "logical" mind just once, and dare to explore something new and outside that realm?? If so, I say go for it!

On the other hand maybe you could be the one to someday put it to more scientific rigour. My feeling is that some day it might be done, when we have the right tools and language for the circumstance. Right now it is admittedly just too esoteric and new - at least to me.
I truly hope you can glean something useful thru reading these posts. I am not sure what benefit there is, however, to constantly pointing out faults with what people are trying to do.

[edit on 23-5-2008 by wayno]

reply to post by wayno


What benefits there are?? How about to try to show people how much time and effort they are wasting on just another paranormal fad? To try to tempt some people away from dangerous, illogical thinking, and turn them towards being logical?

I hope you aren't suggesting that it's best to be illogical than logical?

The reason I hang out here is because I'm actually interested in learning about the paranormal, whereas most folks on this board, and this thread particularly, just seem to want to spend their time telling stories about magical stuff. It's not up to me to try to demonstrate this stuff works - it's up to anyone who thinks this stuff does work, and who wants to help other people learn. Testing this should be easy - get two groups of people, make one group do the sigil stuff, and the other not. Compare the outcome. Repeat. Repeat some more. Repeat again. Compile the statistics. Analyse the statistics. Discuss the statistics. That's it. That's all you have to do, but instead, what do we get? A board full of people actively engaging in ignorance. If this stuff works, why are you guys being so selfish and not trying to use it to help the world? Winning £10? Getting a notebook? Useless. Helping the earthquake and cyclone victims would, to me at least, seem far more useful to humanity.

But of course I'm just being far too logical, like everyone else who tried to learn anything. I guess I should just get rid of my questioning mind and just accept any idea that passes by, latching on like it's the best thing ever.

This is getting a joke.

Isn't there a way if there's a will? If you smother intent with impossibilities, it will not spark reactions. If you plant a seed it will grow. It may not grow very long, it may become mighty, it may produce more seed. It does grow though.

You would say, the seed is false, or does not exist I presume.

Some people see a wandering monk in the mountains..

"What a fool, does he not understand that if you do nothing you will have nothing!"

Another person would say, "Yes, I see your point, I will follow you, having no thing, all things are null, YOU are everything.!"

Another person would have yet another opinion. But at least one person.. connected and assumed the monks thought form, understanding.

If this is not for you, pass it by and find things which are of and for you.

reply to post by depth om


Fine. If you don't want to get to the bottom of this, and if it actually works, and prefer to live in a world where you don't know what works and what doesn't, then sure - let's just dive into this ignorance and hope for the best.

OR, we could try to learn about it, and see if we can use it to help people more than just wishing for lottery tickets and free burgers.

That's what the threads for, analysis and experimentation. Some will see light in this process, others will discount it, others still, will never hear of it. That doesn't affect the validation and personal feelings an individual may feel when they themselves use this process.

When it comes down to it, If I say it works, it works. Likewise for those who discount it.

Faith is the key to every engine in existence. I don't use sigils. The mind itself is the true constuctive "sigil".

As a doorway though, image... hell any stimuli, can be mounted and controlled, steered towards a purpose.

Alright, results time. I tried 3 sigils early this past week, 2 for long term things and 1 for an everyday object. Well I can see the beginnings of one of the long term 'wishes' and I was delivered the everyday object. Pretty impressive for only a few days having elapsed.

If it really was coincidence, then what harm did it do drawing on a piece of paper? The truth is I don't care whether the cause was just luck or my own subconscious - I'm just glad it happened.

So, if I wanted to do a sigil for someone else, would it be best to not say anything about it or to tell them, in your humble opinions?