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Originally posted by budski
Eco Group Calls For "Voluntary Human Extinction"
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An environmental group says it's sole purpose is to recruit volunteers and educate enough people to eventually realize that the human race needs to completely die out in order that the planet can survive.
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (VHEMT) says humans need to stop breeding and voluntarily progress our own slow demise in order that plants, animals and fragile ecosystems can survive.
The group's motto is "May we live long and die out". Their website explains their commitment to a long term goal of convincing the population of Earth that it has no future:
Originally posted by tyranny22
The idea is to reach a harmony with our environment, rather than retreat into non-existence.
Originally posted by Torsten
People don't need to die, we just need to wake up to OUR CONNECTION with Nature.
>NOT BREED? And deprive millions of unborn the miracle of Rush Limbaugh????<
See what I mean? Sentencing someone to life in a world like this is de facto child abuse.
>But seriously, Les, I couldn't agree with you more.<
Hooray! Now, a few billion more and we'll save the planet once and for all.
>I've even gone ya one better and have embraced voluntary poverty so as not to overconsume Ma Gaia's resources. How many Christians do YOU know who can say the same? ("What??? Isn't that the point??? To own lots of stuff??? HEAVENS TO BETSY!!!!!") <
Actually, you're not alone: Alternatives for simple living has been "Equipping people of faith to challenge consumerism, live justly, and celebrate responsibly" for 25 years.
>Maybe we should start a companion movement? People for Voluntary Deprivation? We could call it PeeVeD!<
Well, the name does present recruitment problems. The Voluntary Simplicity movement doesn't consider it deprivation when we free ourselves of worthless junk, which we pay for on the installment plan.
>Waiting for your reply with titilated baited breath,<
Is that pickled herring you're using for bait? ;-)
[Another great organization for voluntary simplicity is the Center for A New American Dream. "Helping individuals and institutions change the way they consume to protect the environment and enhance quality of life for all. In other words... More Fun, Less Stuff!"]
Thank you for writing and sharing your views about diet, Earth, and death.
>eat a f*in owl, <
No thanks, I eschew meat. Besides, f*in owls are even more endangered than spotted owls. Ever seen one? I bet not.
>screw the earth<
Well, when puberty hit I considered screwing lots of things, but somehow the earth never jerked my chain, if you know what I mean. Sure, mud has its appeal, and to each their own, but I'll have to say "No, thank you" to that suggestion.
>If you want to die so damn bad, why don't you <
Your sentence was cut off and I can't imagine what you were going to suggest. It doesn't really matter though, because I don't want to die so damn bad. I can't imagine how you got that impression. We'll all be dead soon enough, no need to rush things. The VHEMT plan will save lives, not end them early.
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts about the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. I have a feeling that you may have misunderstood our purpose. Suicide is not a part of The Movement.
>You people are the sickest motherf*ers I have ever seen.<
I can't disagree with your experience, but I've certainly seen sicker. Take the Pope, for example. He won't allow people to stop breeding even when their children are starving to death. 40,000 children die of malnutrition on an average day. Now that's sick. The VHEMT plan avoids this tragic and inhumane suffering.
>Kill yourselves if you want, but don't ask me to kill myself or my offspring.<
We'll all be dead soon enough, far too soon in many cases. We are not asking anyone to kill themselves, just to voluntarily refrain from further breeding.
>I thought I had run into every kind of idiot on the WEB, but your group is a new low.<
Yes, I know what you mean, You never know what strange ideas and unusual personalities you'll find when connecting to Web sites. They say it takes all kinds of people to make the world go 'round. Looks like the world will be going around for a long time.
I hope this clears up your misconception about killing ourselves. Please feel free to write if you have any other concerns about voluntary human extinction which I might be able to clarify.
>I agree! Some people shouldn't breed.. especially complete idiots like you! <
Glad we agree on this. I don't think complete idiots who aren't like me should breed either. In fact, I can't think of any one who should breed -- idiots or geniuses.
>You and your stupid Gaia crap, you should do "Gaia" a favor and die. . . <
Patience, I'm working on it. Suicide by old age takes a little longer, and can be painful, but it gets the job done.
> . . . and go to hell. <
Thanks for the suggestion, but from what I hear it's a place I wouldn't be caught dead in.
>Just put the *writers suggests suicide* and viola! <
But I don't have a gun nor a viola. Anyway, wouldn't I have to shoot the viola first?
>One less breeding human on planet Earth, and you'll be helping your cause at the same time. <
There's already one less breeding human on planet Earth -- better to go out with a snip than a bang.
Increasing death will not help the cause of voluntary human extinction. In one second, a death is compensated by four births. Only 1.7 deaths per second gives us an increase of 2.4 per second.
>You seriously must have way too much free time on your hands man.<
It's true that choosing to not breed gives a lot of free time. With that free time, I could find people on the internet I disagree with and tell them to go to hell, or I could contemplate unanswerable questions such as, "Why breed?"
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi
I was trying to figure out if humans ever had a hunting instinct, or if it was passed down.
I'm pretty sure I could survive for a little while, but that's only because of what I've been taught/learned.
The whole concept of being at one with nature escapes me, even though I love the countryside and the seaside where I live.
Perhaps it is now a lifestyle choice rather than something that's ingrained into us.