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The Great Nuclear Conspiracy: Benazir Bhutto Carried Nuke Secrets To North Korea.

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posted on May, 12 2008 @ 07:34 AM
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Benazir Bhutto, the then Prime Minister of Pakistan, had consistently denied any role of the Pakistani government in Korea’s nuclear ambitions. But now, it has come to light that a CD containing vital nuclear data was carried by her personally to be handed over to her Korean counterpart as part of a secret deal!


As she was due to visit North Korea at the end of 1993, she was asked and readily agreed to carry critical nuclear data on her person and hand it over on arrival in Pyongyang…..The gist of what she told me was that before leaving Islamabad she shopped for an overcoat with the deepest possible pockets into which she transferred CDs containing the scientific data about uranium which the North Korean wanted.


The Great Nuclear Conspiracy: Bhutto Carried Nuke Secrets On CDs To North Korea.


ATS Premium article by member MikeSingh
May 12th, 2008



Pakistan’s Nuclear Facilities


Map courtesy: Carnegie Endowment For International Peace

Pakistan’s Strategic Imperative

Kashmir has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since the last 60 years and four wars have been fought by Pakistan in its unsuccessful bid to wrest it from India by force. Conventionally, they could never hope to match the Indian war machine. The biggest force leveler would be a viable nuclear deterrent against conventional force asymmetry. With a nuclear deterrent, an incursion into Kashmir would prevent an all out assault by India’s huge military juggernaut against Pakistan which lacked strategic depth.

Thus commenced a covert nuclear program and by the early 1990s Pakistan had acquired the capability to build nuclear weapons using highly enriched uranium cores. But it lacked the delivery systems. American made F-16s were not a viable option and missiles armed with nuclear warheads were a system of choice as they are not as vulnerable to air defense systems as are aircraft, and are also more cost effective.

But Pakistan did not possess the wherewithal to build a delivery system consisting of long range missiles which it was desperate to acquire, whatever the cost.

Pakistan’s Quest For Missile Delivery Systems

Since the Chinese were reluctant to provide Pakistan with the ‘M’ series of longer range missiles due to American pressure, Pakistan turned to North Korea to view their Nodong prototype. In 1995, the missile deal was consummated and in April 1998, Pakistan test fired the Nodong which was re-christened as Ghauri.


Evidence for the missile-for-uranium enrichment technology trade probably emerged sometime in 1999. But when U.S. officials raised the subject with the Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, he denied any knowledge of it.


And there it rested. Nawaz Sharif’s word was taken as confirmation that there was no such trade going on. Or did it?

Was Washington Privy to The Pak-N Korea Nuclear Deal?

Why did the U.S follow a policy of appeasement where Pakistan was concerned? The answer is simple: Pakistan is an ally in the so called war against terror. With its contiguous borders with Afghanistan, Al Qaeda and the Taliban could use this ‘no man’s land’ as launch pads against NATO Forces under the U.S, and thus it was imperative that nothing short of a policy of appeasement could assure the advancement of American strategy in Afghanistan and to a lesser extent Iraq, by keeping the command and control set up of the militants in disarray.

For example, In late July last year, the Institute for Science and International Security issued a report revealing that Pakistan was building a heavy-water reactor capable of producing enough plutonium for 40 to 50 nuclear weapons a year. The Surprising response from Frederick Jones, a spokesman for the National Security Council, was astonishingly mild: “The reactor is expected to be substantially smaller and less capable than reported.”!


Pakistan's plutonium production reactor at Khushab.
Image Source: DigitalGlobe


Double standards and double speak is nothing new and are the hallmarks of the present dispensation in Washington. No one batted an eye lid when on September 6th last, Pakistan’s military dictatorship announced a peace treaty with militants in North Waziristan, al-Qaeda’s center of gravity. Vice President Cheney’s response was unabashed praise of President Pervez Musharraf as “a man who has demonstrated great courage under very difficult political circumstances and has been a great ally for the United States.”

Concerns about Pakistan’s nuclear links with North Korea go back to 1999 when proliferation analysts began to speculate about North Korea’s likely gains from the Nodong ballistic missile sales to Pakistan. Senior U.S. officials who were briefed on Pakistan’s nuclear cooperation with North Korea raised the issue at the highest levels of the Pakistani government. In Jun 2001, U.S. deputy secretary of state Richard Armitage drew attention to the role of retired Pakistani nuclear scientists in North Korea’s nuclear program. However, his public warnings weren’t paid heed to.

Then came the bomb shell in the form of a U.S. government source leak to the New York Times in Oct 2002 that Pakistan was the likely source of North Korea’s gas centrifuge uranium enrichment program.


The nuclear-for-missile barter trade between Islamabad and Pyongyang probably began in 1997 and continued at least until Jul 2002. During this period, Pakistan’s cooperation with North Korea involved the exchange of nuclear personnel, the sharing of technical knowledge, design information on gas centrifuges, machinery and possibly nuclear material.


This was confirmed tacitly by the then Secretary of State, Collin Powell, when replying to a question whether such cooperation had taken place in the past said, “ We didn’t talk about the past and I don’t want to get into who might have done what, when and at what point in history.”

The conspiracy: The Smoking Gun

U.S. intelligence officials claim that Pakistan was a key supplier of uranium enrichment technology to North Korea, and suggested that Pakistan had exchanged centrifuge enrichment technology for North Korean help in developing long range missiles, by transfer of vital technology and assembling missiles from semi knocked down kits surreptitiously transported from Korea, ironically in American made C-130 Hercules transport aircraft!


U.S. official statements leave little doubt that cooperation occurred, but there
are significant details missing on the scope of cooperation and the role of Pakistan’s
government. Further, both North Korea and Pakistan have denied that nuclear
technology was provided to North Korea.


Benazir Bhutto, the then Prime Minister, had consistently denied any role of the Pakistani government in Korea’s nuclear ambitions. But now, it has come to light that a CD containing vital nuclear data was carried by her personally to be handed over to her Korean counterpart as part of a secret deal!


Benazir Bhutto once played an active role in furthering Pakistan’s clandestine nuclear programme by personally taking CDs to and from North Korea on an official trip as Prime Minister, reveals a book by her Oxford college mate and journalist Shyam Bhatia who subsequently kept in regular touch with her.

It was in the 90’s that North Korea offered to provide long range missiles to Pakistan to offset the imbalance with India’s integrated guided missile development program then led by A. P. J. Abdul Kalam.

By 1993, Pakistan was under the spotlight as never before [on bartering enrichment technology for missiles], with Russia, India and western secret services monitoring every nuance of Pakistan’s military research.

As she was due to visit North Korea at the end of 1993, she was asked and readily agreed to carry critical nuclear data on her person and hand it over on arrival in Pyongyang…..The gist of what she told me was that before leaving Islamabad she shopped for an overcoat with the deepest possible pockets into which she transferred CDs containing the scientific data about uranium which the North Korean wanted.

Pakistani contacts later explained that Benazir returned with more than just CDs. The delighted North Koreans who had already sold missile technology to Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen insisted she carry back the disassembled parts of an entire missile so that Pakistani scientists could study it part by part.


Epilogue


Pakistan Gets A New Nuke Missile To Use On India!

The Associated Press.
April 2008.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: Pakistan said that a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead anywhere in India is ready for wartime use after troops launched it on Monday during a field exercise. Scientists and engineers had prepared the Hatf VI missile, also known as Shaheen II, for the exercise with a test-firing on Saturday.

Monday’s launch “validated the operational readiness of a strategic missile group equipped with the Shaheen II missile,” the Pakistani military said in a statement.



Pakistani long range nuclear-capable ballistic missile,
Shaheen II, or Hatf VI, (Nodong) missile being fired
during a test at an undisclosed location in Pakistan.



North Korea Could Make Nuclear Warhead For Missile Delivery


The North Korean nuclear
tipped medium-range Nodong
missile, seen here dressed in
Pakistani Ghauri
missile colors.


North Korea is capable of arming its medium-range Nodong missile with a nuclear warhead, two US experts said. The report by the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) also estimates that the communist state has separated enough plutonium to build about five to 12 nuclear weapons. It is also suspected to have obtained warhead designs from Pakistan's rogue nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan.

Should war break out, "North Korea would be expected to use its nuclear weapons against military targets and population centres in South Korea or Japan."


Can one put the genie back in the bottle? By tacitly allowing the interchange to take place to keep Pakistan amused in its so called war against terror, the U.S has helped make the world more insecure than it has ever been. So much for American policy of protecting its vital interests. It has done just the opposite.

 


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www.hindu.com...
www.inthesetimes.com...
cns.miis.edu...

suzieqq.wordpress.com...
www.spacewar.com...
CRS Report for Congress




[edit on 12-5-2008 by mikesingh]




posted on May, 12 2008 @ 09:28 AM
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Wow, That is quite the impressive piece you put together there Mike!!! I just can't help but wonder if her assassination is somehow related to this and if so, who actually behind this. You may have just opened an even bigger can of worms. I can't wait to see what comes of this thread.

Great Post!!!!!!!



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 09:42 AM
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I too wonder about the assassination and if it had anything to do with this, although the region is so volatile that it was more likely some extremist group than a revenge hit for the trafficing.

Great post, and very deserving of all the flags and stars... although how come so many of these without the replies? Do the mods / admins boost stories up like these? No problem if they do cause this is a very good piece, just wondering...



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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I really wish I had more to add. Great work.



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 01:14 PM
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Good stuff. If it is true, it would certainly provide motives for her murder. I think in general she was killed or allowed to be killed because she was a little bit of a loose cannon and the elite want compromised people running their countries.

Bhutto had pride in Pakistan and had a very nationalist slant to her speeches. I think that the nwo feared this nationalist streak in her and could not guarantee her loyalties.



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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*injects a healthy dose of speculation into the topic*

Well, we all know that the Pakistani-Indian relationship has always been rather cloak and dagger, so i can't help but wonder how exactly the Pakistanis intend to profit from this venture.

Destablizing the region, perhaps?

It may be the case they're attempting to turn their enemies on one another by siding with the local bad-boy, which may ultimately give the other locals cause for concern when faced with two nuclear capable states instead of just two individual states acting in their own individual interests...

I think that what we might be looking at is a power-play in action with this one - which isn't too surprising considering how the Indians and Chinese have more or less lorded over that part of the world for quite some time now.

I have a nasty feeling about that group of nations, kinda like the feeling you get when you find out someone let the monkeys out of their cages at the zoo and you're sitting in your office with the fan on full-blow.



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 01:20 PM
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I agree with you on this one beefcake, it would seem that Bhutto has been used the same way that a crime boss would use a carrier to deliver an important message concerning territorial disputes to his nearest rival.

Almost as if she was lead into this and then she had to be put down in case she talked...



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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I am not sure if Benziar personally carried some material to North Korea however that's no secret here, that we did help North Korea in some aspects and in return we did get the Missile technology from them.

The general opinion here is that AQ Khan's secret network helped North Koreans and Govt was not involved in that.,



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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dude great post, i love all of your threads, where the hell do you find all this intel!

Thanks for contributing will take a while for this to sink in.
Star+flag



posted on May, 12 2008 @ 08:09 PM
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I guess you guys have not read the articles by Chris Gourlay in The Sunday Times of London.

A good place to read about it is on The Muckraker Report in an article that sums Chris Gourlays work and with reference to the articles that deal with the issue.

The location on The Muckraker Report is the following
muckrakerreport.com...
The article is Titled "Sibel Edmonds - A Snap Shot that Speaks Volumes"

Best,
Maher Osseiran
www.mydemocracy.net


 

(Domain name correction)

[edit on 8-1-2008 by SkepticOverlord]



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 12:14 AM
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The American government has a long history of turning a blind eye to Pakistan's Nuclear ambitions, the man behind their Nuclear plants was Abdul Alqadeer Khan and he could have been stopped as early as 1978 when he worked for FDO in Holland.

The American government knew all about Khan and chose to ignore the threat, they were fighting a proxy war with Russia in Afghanistan at the time and needed the support of Pakistan in this fight. Even though they knew of Pakistan's ambitions of a nuclear weapon,they continued to supply arms to Pakistan including F16 fighters which could be adopted to carry a nuclear weapon.

Congress was lied to many times about the progress of Pakistan's potential threat, now today we are looking at these failed warnings and cover ups as a threat to world peace.

The American military and industrial complex is like a runaway train that needs to be derailed, only the people of America have the tools to derail this threat but first they need to awake to the threat from within.

[edit on 13-5-2008 by redeyeblue]



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 01:45 AM
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Wow...Starred and flagged! Mike, you've done it again...
Quality research on a fascinating and troubling topic... Besides the implications of national leaders trafficking intelligence (as this case isn't unique), that map of all those nuclear-related facilities in Pakistan is disturbing enough in itself: this is just one country; what would a world map of basically unmonitored/"not subject to safeguard" facilities look like?


@ sobolwolf: personally I doubt that mods/admin boost stories like this by starring/flagging...For sure, the mods have the same right as any ATS member to star and/or flag a post if they think it's deserving of it. As for Admin, they have already done their part to "boost" this story by accepting and publishing it as ATS Premium content, which pretty well guarantees it'll get a lot of hits. As you acknowledged, the high standard of the OP's work is self-evident, but sometimes people just read and rate without posting any comment...Of course, the stars/flags are comments in their own way as well



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 02:55 AM
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Everyone knows that Pakistan helped North Korea to go nuclear; that's old news. It was reported by the BBC as early as 2002. But to claim that Bhutto was some sort of king pin is just plain stupid.

Firstly, what kind of idiot seriously believes that Pakistan would choose to smuggle top secret military technology by burning it onto a CD and asking Bhutto to stuff it into her pockets?

Secondly, why even resort to subterfuge in the first place? There would be no need for it, since Bhutto was Prime Minister, and could carry whatever she liked to whomever she liked.

Thirdly, since she was flying from her home country to a friendly nation, who was she supposed to be hiding the CD from?

Fourthly, why use a coat with deep pockets - as if this would make any difference? Why not just put the CD in a bag or a briefcase?

Fifthly, why would the PM be carrying the CD anyway? Why not a representative of the military, or a member of the nuclear weapons R&D team?

Sixthly, why would Bhutto make the CD herself? She wasn't a nuclear scientist, and she had no expertise in the field of nuclear weaponry. And what evidence is there that she even had access to that sort of data?



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posted on May, 13 2008 @ 03:26 AM
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The US has promised to curb air strikes by drones against suspected militants in Pakistan, as part of a joint counter-terrorism strategy agreed with the new civilian government in Islamabad, the Guardian has learned. That strategy will be supported by an aid package potentially worth more than $7bn (£3.55bn), which is due to go before Congress for approval in the next few months.


Another $7 billion!! That makes a total of $17 billion!! Almost $5 billion more than one of the worlds largest contracts for the purchase of 120 top-of-the-line fighter jets by India! Wow! All for fighting a rag tag circus of militants? Unbelievable!

According to Pakistan’s information minister, Sherry Rehman:


Washington's previous emphasis on ties to Musharraf and the Pakistani military "hasn't provided the results that were supposed to happen on the ground".


Why? Since 2001, the US has pumped in aid worth more than $10 billion to Pakistan for the so called war against terror (sic). What exactly for? Take a look at this:


Three days before Ms Bhutto was assassinated, the New York Times revealed that officials in the US military and the Bush administration were admitting that there had been few checks and controls on Coalition Support Funds to Pakistan. Money which should have gone to fighting the Taliban and Al Qaeda was found to have been spent by Pakistan on bolstering its defenses against India - a clear misappropriation of funds. Reimbursement claims from the Pakistani military for the expenses incurred in fighting the War on Terror appear to have been highly exaggerated.
More shockers here…


And what’s more, according to reliable reports, millions of dollars have been pocketed by the Pakistani Army generals! So much for the war against terror! So you think this war will ever stop? One would be naive to think so because there is too much at stake – the money to fund terrorist activities through Pakistan’s ISI will stop and the generals’ gravy train which is merrily chugging along with American aid would come to an abrupt halt! And that doesn’t make too much sense, does it?

So this sham of a war against ‘terror’ is too lucrative an enterprise for the Pakistani elite. As long as American money pours in, this charade will continue – forever!

And hey, if you’re an honest tax paying American, now you know where your hard earned dollars are going – to fund terrorists and fattening the pockets of the Pakistani Generals who are laughing all the way to the bank!

Have a nice day!

Cheers!



www.guardian.co.uk...




[edit on 13-5-2008 by mikesingh]



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 07:32 AM
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I wanna ask you do you work for the indian govt in anyway or are you just like all of us a avg joe?
pm me.

and for the topic i doubt benazir was assassinated becase of this,i think she was going to make public that osama was dead.


[edit on 13-5-2008 by greenjuice]



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Another $7 billion!! That makes a total of $17 billion!! Almost $5 billion more than one of the worlds largest contracts for the purchase of 120 top-of-the-line fighter jets by India! Wow! All for fighting a rag tag circus of militants? Unbelievable!


Well!! Buddy, if you compare this amount to the expenditure in Iraq it's just a tiny portion of it... We are not one of the richest nations we are challenged by higher inflation rate we need to meet our expenses we don't have any money to spare for any expedition like that... all we can do is allow US Jets to freely target militants and we carry out the ground invasion in those mountainous area... and If we are supposed to help US they are supposed to help us too and they have to, we have long been ally of US and have fought proxy war of US and Russia back in 1980's ..... isn't??




And hey, if you’re an honest tax paying American, now you know where your hard earned dollars are going – to fund terrorists and fattening the pockets of the Pakistani Generals who are laughing all the way to the bank!


i don't want to burst your bubble, but you are good at making conspiracy theory and your above remarks are very much ridiculous. it Might impress someone who relies on CNN and BBC but not me at least!!!

Even though US Administration is a bunch of idiots yet i don't think they are too negligent to ignore where the money is going to ... The money we get is actually ' remuneration ' to expenditure we incur on fighting with militants .... they don't give us blank Checks.. we get paid for what we spend and some other ' Services ' that is even more important than fighting just like freely allowing FBI's agents abducting any of the Pakistani in any of the city of Pakistan, turning a blind eye on US air strikes on our soil and in most cases civilian were killed... even kids...!!!!





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posted on May, 13 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by LOYAL
Even though US Administration is a bunch of idiots yet i don't think they are too negligent to ignore where the money is going to ...



"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

$2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

"We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on,"
said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service.
www.cbsnews.com...


Trillions of dollars unaccounted for! Where is the money? Where are the checks and balances? And this is happening in America. If the powers that be cannot account for the money in their own country, do you expect they can in some other country? How effective would they be in tracking the billions doled out to Pakistan, in Pakistan?


[edit on 13-5-2008 by mikesingh]



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 11:39 AM
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he is dead though stop living in what he could have done its what hes doing now ... NOTHING!!!



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 01:29 PM
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All a bunch of smoke and mirrors. A bunch of "could of", "maybe", "might have", "i suspect" and a mlot of manure.

Where is the PROOF! It is all conjecture, a buch of crap.

You guys just love to connect apples, rhinos and chicken manure and call it all a pie.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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Your opinion may hold more credibility if we might see contributions from you that have a similar degree of effort.

As it is, it looks like you're just whistling Dixie.



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