The eschelon system has been official for years. In britain it was recently brought into the media spotlight after a worker for GCHQ (The UK
equivilent of the NSA) revealed that it was being used to spy on the UN. It is no longer secret, everybody knows and is willing to admit it exists,
even the UK governement who is the USA's most prominent partner in the project.
The only conspiracy surrounding it is how much it is being used to spy on us, the innocent populations of each country, and our phone calls, emails
etc, and how much it is being used for corporate purposes.
The Echelon System. Proof., page 1
privacy
Topic started on 28-2-2004 @ 09:21 PM by Agent47
www.fas.org...
Update:
Your headquarter for Echelon Info.
www.fas.org...
Once again seeing as I have already posted 5 new links in my Corporation thread and this is an extremely interesting issue, I decided to put this tid bit out on its own thread.
Several reports sponsored by the European Parliament have alleged that NSA operates an international sigint collection effort, known as Echelon, that intercepts communications worldwide in order to provide economic intelligence to U.S. corporations. On July 5, 2000, the European Parliament voted to undertake a further investigation of Echelon; the resultant draft report on Echelon was made public on May 18, 2001. Maintaining that NSA operates in accordance with existing statutes and executive orders, senior U.S. officials have strongly disputed claims that intelligence agencies assist U.S. corporations competing with foreign firms. They acknowledge, however, that intelligence agencies collect information regarding the use of bribery and other illegal efforts by foreign firms in competition with U.S. corporations. Indications of such foreign efforts are provided to the State and Commerce Departments. (See CRS Report RS20444, Project Echelon: U.S. Electronic Surveillance Efforts, by Richard A. Best, Jr.; Updated March 2, 2000.)
Only another link to corporations and the government if you ask me.
[Edited on 28-2-2004 by Agent47]
[Edited on 28-2-2004 by Agent47]
Update:
Your headquarter for Echelon Info.
www.fas.org...
Once again seeing as I have already posted 5 new links in my Corporation thread and this is an extremely interesting issue, I decided to put this tid bit out on its own thread.
Several reports sponsored by the European Parliament have alleged that NSA operates an international sigint collection effort, known as Echelon, that intercepts communications worldwide in order to provide economic intelligence to U.S. corporations. On July 5, 2000, the European Parliament voted to undertake a further investigation of Echelon; the resultant draft report on Echelon was made public on May 18, 2001. Maintaining that NSA operates in accordance with existing statutes and executive orders, senior U.S. officials have strongly disputed claims that intelligence agencies assist U.S. corporations competing with foreign firms. They acknowledge, however, that intelligence agencies collect information regarding the use of bribery and other illegal efforts by foreign firms in competition with U.S. corporations. Indications of such foreign efforts are provided to the State and Commerce Departments. (See CRS Report RS20444, Project Echelon: U.S. Electronic Surveillance Efforts, by Richard A. Best, Jr.; Updated March 2, 2000.)
Only another link to corporations and the government if you ask me.
[Edited on 28-2-2004 by Agent47]
[Edited on 28-2-2004 by Agent47]
reply posted on 26-9-2004 @ 07:50 PM by RedHerring
N.S.A. Backdoor virus in all windows OS since win95!
The National Security Agency has a key installed into a .DLL in windows.
even versions sold to foriegn countries.
Are you a System Administator in charge of security?
Then you MUST read this!
www.heise.de...
Export version of Lotus Notes provides trapdoor for NSA.
Only the NSA can listen so that's OK
www.heise.de...
Austrailian Echelon
www.heise.de...
Echelon is a system used by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) to intercept and process international communications passing via communications satellites. It is one part of a global surveillance systems that is now over 50 years old. Other parts of the same system intercept messages from the Internet, from undersea cables, from radio transmissions, from secret equipment installed inside embassies, or use orbiting satellites to monitor signals anywhere on the earth's surface. The system includes stations run by Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, in addition to those operated by the United States. Although some Australian and British stations do the same job as America's Echelon sites, they are not necessarily called "Echelon" stations. But they all form part of the same integrated global network using the same equipment and methods to extract information and intelligence illicitly from millions of messages every day, all over the world.
www.heise.de...
Echelon watch
archive.aclu.org...
echeelon in New Zealand
mediafilter.org...
Echelon in England
www.whatreallyhappened.com...
The problem as I see it is private communication does not exist.
A legal wiretap requires a court order; even privileged exchanges between lawyer and client are intercepted.
But what really concerns me is that National security legislation, such as the patriot act, allow domestic intelligence gathered in this manner to be used as evidence in court.
This undermines the constitutional right to privacy, 1984 was prophetic.
I believe we now stand at a critical crossroad in the future of free society.
The gathering of this information must be allowed.
But how the information is handled and disseminated must be carefully regulated and controlled, to insure the preservation of civil liberties.
Even the abilities of FEMA to suspend civil and constitutional rights in the event of a National emergency should be carefully examined, within that legislation there exists NO TIMETABLE or guidelines for re-instituting the constitution!
The lessons of McCarthyism and Hitler must not be forgotten.
I am not overly paranoid about this, but there is a strong pattern emerging, and I am concerned.
The National Security Agency has a key installed into a .DLL in windows.
even versions sold to foriegn countries.
Are you a System Administator in charge of security?
Then you MUST read this!
www.heise.de...
Export version of Lotus Notes provides trapdoor for NSA.
Only the NSA can listen so that's OK
www.heise.de...
Austrailian Echelon
www.heise.de...
Echelon is a system used by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) to intercept and process international communications passing via communications satellites. It is one part of a global surveillance systems that is now over 50 years old. Other parts of the same system intercept messages from the Internet, from undersea cables, from radio transmissions, from secret equipment installed inside embassies, or use orbiting satellites to monitor signals anywhere on the earth's surface. The system includes stations run by Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, in addition to those operated by the United States. Although some Australian and British stations do the same job as America's Echelon sites, they are not necessarily called "Echelon" stations. But they all form part of the same integrated global network using the same equipment and methods to extract information and intelligence illicitly from millions of messages every day, all over the world.
www.heise.de...
Echelon watch
archive.aclu.org...
echeelon in New Zealand
mediafilter.org...
Echelon in England
www.whatreallyhappened.com...
The problem as I see it is private communication does not exist.
A legal wiretap requires a court order; even privileged exchanges between lawyer and client are intercepted.
But what really concerns me is that National security legislation, such as the patriot act, allow domestic intelligence gathered in this manner to be used as evidence in court.
This undermines the constitutional right to privacy, 1984 was prophetic.
I believe we now stand at a critical crossroad in the future of free society.
The gathering of this information must be allowed.
But how the information is handled and disseminated must be carefully regulated and controlled, to insure the preservation of civil liberties.
Even the abilities of FEMA to suspend civil and constitutional rights in the event of a National emergency should be carefully examined, within that legislation there exists NO TIMETABLE or guidelines for re-instituting the constitution!
The lessons of McCarthyism and Hitler must not be forgotten.
I am not overly paranoid about this, but there is a strong pattern emerging, and I am concerned.
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