Originally posted by freight tomsen
Originally posted by Rockpuck
Disney was not a 33rd degree Freemason .. and I looked around and I see nothing that says Will Smith was or is a Prince Hall Mason.
As you can see by his "G" avatar and name "Rock"Puck, this member is a Mason. He, like all the other Masons on this site have and will continue
to deny that most Hollywood celebrities are Masons because they have everything to lose once this information is out to the public.
So I just wanted to say, Walt Disney and Will Smith ARE indeed Masons, but I respect the right of RockPuck and other ATS Masons to say what they wish.
OK.. but no Grand Lodge lists them as such, and as I said, when Will Smith became famous he was in high school, and even when he went on air, he was
still to young to be a Mason..
So .. I am kinda confused on your logic. It almost sounds as if your saying that because I am a Mason I only lie, and because you are NOT a Mason,
only you can be telling the truth..
Yet you offer no actual evidence that supports what you say.
Because you see my friend, when you make a claim against someone, YOU must prove it. Not me. It's like saying "Your gay" I say "No I'm not?"
you say "Prove it" .. make much sense? .. No. Neither does your argument. It lacks all form of logic what so ever.
say Will Smith is a Mason .. well my friend, tell me what lodge he belongs to? What year did he join? What degree is he currently?
What positions did he hold? Did you know Prince Hall Masonry is not Regular Masonry?
Same thing for Disney. He was an avid bigot, I don't see him as the type to conspire with a group he probably hated.
So show me what lodge he belonged to.
It really shouldn't be that hard if what you say is true.
I won't address your other posts in this thread.. nothing is on topic. Ironically even after a warn it doesn't faze you, you still go against the
I suppose every family that begin their children's names with a specific letter are in on a conspiracy to right?
What a joke. Seriously.
I am waiting for a decent conspiracy theorist to come along, not one guy with 10 handles and a couple of followers who eat it up.
EDIT to add...
Why would Masons lie about who is famous anyways? .. We tend to brag about the famous men who became Freemasons (great men join Masonry, Masonry does
not make them great) .. It's like there is a mental block with some people that they either lack the mental capacity to understand, or are to self
absorbed to see past themselves and their own conceded thoughts. Simply amazing. Brad Paisley is a Freemason. How come you didn't list him or any
of his songs? Just Google Image it, there are plenty of pictures of him with an apron on even.
Famous Masons A-L .. naming almost every famous Mason, ever. With the likes of:
Coward, Charles "The Count of Auschwitz" - Camberwell Old Comrades Lodge No. 4077, UGLE. "The Count of Auschwitz" as he would come to be
known, joined the British Army in 1937 and was captured by the Germans in 1940. In retrospect the Germans would have deeply regretted capturing Coward
as he probably did more damage to the German cause than he ever could have done had he not been captured, for as a POW he basically launched a one man
war. He escaped a total of nine times, including two times before he had even arrived at a POW camp! During one escape Coward was awarded the Iron
Cross while posing as a wounded soldier in a German army field hospital. During another, Coward spotted a V-1 Rocket base and managed to convey its
location to British Intelligence. Between escapes, Coward managed to continuously thwart the German war effort, organizing numerous acts of sabotage
while serving on work details. For the remainder of the war, Coward continuously sent coded messages regarding military intelligence via letters to
his family. In 1943, Coward was sent to the notorious Auschwitz . Here he was appointed the International Red Cross liaison for British prisoners of
war in the area. In this position, he devised an elaborate scheme to "buy" corpses of non-Jews by bribing guards with Red Cross supplies. At night,
when Jews deemed unfit to work were being marched to the gas chambers, they would quickly jump out of line and conceal themselves in a ditch. Coward
would then arrange for the corpses he had purchased to be spread along the road to substitute for the hidden Jews, who would then be smuggled away to
freedom, using the identities of the corpses. In this way, Coward is estimated to have saved 400-800 Auschwitz inmates from death. Coward also used
his Red Cross position to smuggle food and other supplies to Jewish prisoners, including dynamite, which was used to partially destroy the gas
chambers. In 1944, Coward was transferred to a small work camp and was conscripted to work in an IG Farben-run coal mine. Along with his fellow
POW's, Coward did his best to deliberately slow down and sabotage production. After the war, Coward testified at the Nuremburg trials, and in 1953
testified in a lawsuit brought against IG Farben for using slave labor. During this trial the German judge commended Coward for his courage and
remarked: "He did this for the mere reason he and the prisoners were fellow human beings". In 1963 Coward was awarded the title of one of the
Righteous Among the Nations and had a tree planted in his honour in the Avenue of Righteous Gentiles in Israel. A book about Coward's exploits, The
Password is Courage , was published in 1954, and a movie of the same name was produced in 1962. He was also awarded the Israeli Peace medal; one of
only two British citizens to be so honored, the other recipient being Bro. Winston Churchill.
Very proud to call that man a Brother.
Clark, William - American explorer and frontier politician who joined another Freemason, Meriwether Lewis on the Lewis and Clark expedition
(1804-6), the first overland exploration of the American West and Pacific Northwest. Clark was responsible for the careful mapmaking. He later served
as Native American agent and governor of the Missouri Territory (1813-1821).
And of course many hundreds if not thousands of other Freemasons that are considered "famous".
We promote them, support them and are proud to be associated with them. Why hide it? If anything, it actually helps us by showing potential brethren
what kind of men join our organization.
[edit on 5/13/2008 by Rockpuck]
LOL, another edit.. I did not design my Avatar, I'm a Marty did.. and I quite like his work to be honest. No, he is not a Mason. And the word
"Rock" in my name refers to Rock music which I like, be it modern Rock, oldies Rock, Celtic Rock, Punk Rock... and the word "Puck" refers to the
fact that all my life, especially through high school, I played hockey. Music and Sports. Nothing to do with Masonry. In fact, I have used this
handle everywhere since I was 15, and did not become a Mason until 5 months after joining ATS.
Assumption, with no research, presented as facts. Proven wrong.
[edit on 5/13/2008 by Rockpuck]