Questions Obama STILL refuses to answer
Originally posted by semperfortis
he still claims association with the church.
Have you seen the new pastor of that church? Otis Moss is just like the rest. Unfreak'n believeable. So called 'black liberation theology' ala James Cone. (paraphrase) - we won't worship God unless he unites with us in war against the white man.
one must ask if he supports the views expressed in the bulletins.
OF COURSE he does. If he didn't then he would have gotten up and walked out ... just like OPRAH did. (at least she had the good sense to!)
Sen. Obama's presidential campaign declined to comment for this article,
No surprise there.
If Senator Obama is intending on running this country, do we need a leader that supports, actively or not, such divisive rhetoric?
HELL NO! Mr. "unity" really isn't into unity at all. If he were, he would have left that cesspool years ago. He never would have taken 'Uncle Wright' as his mentor and spiritual advisor. He wouldn't be subjecting those two little girls of his to the crap that is spewed in that so-called 'church'.
“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”
(Quoted in William R Jones, "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube.)
Originally posted by bigbert81
we all know a man's church is the most important thing going in this election.
When it comes to being POTUS .. it ALL is important. And the American people are capable of discussing the war, health care, AND what motivates a potential POTUS. It doesn't have to be one item or the other. It needs to be ALL.
Originally posted by wisefoolishness
Obama is multi-racial, so it just doesn't make sense to me.
Read his book. He shook off the white part of him a long time ago.
'US' is black people. 'THEM' is white people.
Listen here in his own words
Originally posted by semperfortis
any ORGANIZATION that espouses and upholds racist and divisive view points.
That 'church' is the black version of the KKK. Nothing more.
If Obama were a white guy and had been going to KKK meetings for 20+ years - under the guise of a 'church' - and had 'close mentors and advisors' who were high ranking KKK members then YOU BETCHYA it would be an issue. It SHOULD be an issue.
Originally posted by bigbert81
I'm sick of seeing all this irrelevant propaganda being spread about him,
FACTS. Not propaganda. FACTS.
while people are ignoring the real issues about the candidates.
Obama being a racist IS an issue. It goes right to the heart of who he is and what will motivate him and his decision making.
Originally posted by Karlhungis
It isn't like Obama is running against Mother Teresa and Ghandi. He is running against McCain and Clinton.
All three major candidates need to be vetted.
Obama = CFR. He's a racist. He has no experience.
Clinton = CFR. And she lies and lies and lies and lies.
McCain = CFR. And he's a pro-war one term lame duck.
So why not vote for Ron Paul or one of these people who are running. Vote for the RIGHT person .. not just the least worst. Don’t vote for someone just because they can win … vote for the right person.
Originally posted by bigbert81
...this church and affiliation stuff is getting extremely old
Just because you are bored with it doesn't make it any less valid of a point to discuss.
for some reason the people here on ATS, including yourself, seem to focus your concerns and energies based on Obama's church affiliation and his associates.
The REASON is because it's important. It's ALL important. Obamabots want to whitewash it all .... but the fact is that these things are important for ALL the candidates. Obama too.
(and his 'church affiliation' is more than just a 'church affiliation' ... )
Originally posted by semperfortis
Here are sever threads of mine ...
I did the same thing. I posted other threads that I started about McCain and what I posted what I think about Hillary ... It did no good.
Originally posted by bigbert81
It's not right that there is so much already about this, yet barely anything about things I've mentioned.
Then YOU should quit whining about it and go start the threads that you think need to be started.
Originally posted by Sublime620
What are you honestly concerned about with this? That black America will enslave you?
Originally posted by bigbert81
I do see several, several posts in this same subject area attacking Obama's church affiliations,
Have you counted the anti-bush threads?
- bush the war criminal
- bush the murderer
- bush the antichrist
- bush the evil one
- bush the blah blah blah
over and over and over and over and over and over and over ....
So Berti .. since you are so ... 'observant' ... about alleged multiple threads on the same subject, can I expect to see you frequenting the anti-Bush threads with the same energy that you do the threads that are exposing obama's lies and misdirections?
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