I agree with the way others have complimented DD on being open-minded, as this discussion wove through the thread.

There were a lot of mis-conceptions, apparently initiated by this Ted Twitmeir (I don't know who he is).

I noticed, as someone pointed out, Ted updated his initial report with a retraction....of sorts....but in what seems typical ill-informed fashion, still continued to question the part of the engine exhaust nozzle labeled 'B' in the photo.

UM....I have been up close and personal with commercial passenger airplanes for 22 years. That is a normal piece of the engine, as designed.

I'm supposing Ted, by implication, wishes to keep it a 'mystery'....because he's counting on the layman's lack of knowledge. This is a common tactic; propose a 'question', even if you already know the answer....it is called being provacative in order to promote an agenda. Later, if called out on it, he can say he didn't lie. BUT, willingly planting the seed of the eventual hysteria and paranoia that may ensue, is disengenuous.

Example: It is unlawful to falsely shout "Fire!" in a darkened movie theater.

But, say you whisper to a person behind you, a stranger, and say "Is that a fire?" And, this stranger thinks he sees something...gets agitated....and repeats to someone else, and so on....eventually someone will panic, and shout "Fire!"

See the analogy? I'll go one step further...you, the first 'whisperer', have written a book about human behavior...so, you conduct this experiment in the dark theater in order to get free publicity to help sell that book....AND, you skate away scot-free, and just reap the profits.

Instigation = profits.

Thats just insanse.. Does the government have a stance on this offically?

How can they claim they do not use this technology, or that noone does to effect the weather, yet there are obvious sites selling equipment and claiming

"Since its beginning, Company personnel have logged over 30,000 hours of actual cloud seeding time. During its 40 years of weather modification experience, WMI has pioneered safe and effective techniques for cloud seeding, both day and night. These advances in cloud seeding have made it possible to conduct operations 24 hours per day, seven days a week. These techniques have been employed with continued success for over 40 seasons throughout the world."

Is that not factual evidence that is happens ALOT, I dont understand why weather mod is considered so conspirical? I would say if they are spraying flouride to make us more passive, yes -- but why weather modding topics?

i figured it out! case closed

chemtrails are just fuel leaking out of the extra tanks for refueling other planes! those pesky things always leak!

but seriously I cant confirm or deny the existence of chemtrails, although it has been proven that people/corporations/governments in the past have sprayed chemicals over populations.

but we all know the gov stops doing those things once we find out about it... right?

Originally posted by mindping
Thats just insanse.. Does the government have a stance on this offically?

How can they claim they do not use this technology, or that noone does to effect the weather, yet there are obvious sites selling equipment and claiming

"Since its beginning, Company personnel have logged over 30,000 hours of actual cloud seeding time. During its 40 years of weather modification experience, WMI has pioneered safe and effective techniques for cloud seeding, both day and night. These advances in cloud seeding have made it possible to conduct operations 24 hours per day, seven days a week. These techniques have been employed with continued success for over 40 seasons throughout the world."

Is that not factual evidence that is happens ALOT, I dont understand why weather mod is considered so conspirical? I would say if they are spraying flouride to make us more passive, yes -- but why weather modding topics?

So now, cloud seeding projects are just there to spray flouride on people? How many different chemtrail beliefs have there been in this thread alone?

No, there is not flouride in cloud seeding flares. Here is a hint, those flares are often used in UPDRAFTS under and in storm cells, to take it higher into regions of supercooler water, to enhance precipitation. And its often over rural areas, where there is more agriculture. Some of those are for more water, or hail supression.

If someone was going to try and spray people, wouldnt you just go right over there heads?

as per the RAAF photo if it was full of NASTY chemicals wouln't the
guys in the said photos would be wearing PPEs or at least
gloves???????????

Well exactly. The pod itself is more or less simply a valved pumping mechanism for the fuel. But if this really was something toxic these guys would not exactly be so cavalier about grabbing that hose.

-ChriS

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And even those some chemtrail believers will state this, chaff is not something sprayed, it is not an aerosol. There are also some advanced chaff systems that can actually cut the length of the chaff on the fly to suit the wavelength of the particular radar frequency too.

If you want a good chuckle sometime, unfortunately at the expense of someones mental decline, you can go to Carnicoms site and see his pages where he does dentistry on himself looking for fibers on his teeth, and where he thinks chemtrails have changed the earths rotational speed.




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