The trouble with the chemtrail proponents is that they seem to think that contrail formation is a constant and therefore anything that varies from their pre concieved notion of what a contrail 'should' look like therefore MUST be a chemtrail.

There is no arguing with such a blinkered standpoint. The tragedy is that even if the chemtrail fraternity were right, their ignorant posturings (of which the Dense, sorry Rense, KC-135 is a prime example, make them look ridiculous because people with even a fairly basic knowledge of aviation can SEE when the chemmies are trying to pull the wool over their eyes.

I wonder what Rense would have made of THIS beautiful picture, don't have nightmares.

Putting silver iodide flares in clouds, is not "chemtrails" no matter how much the chemtrail believers try to use that as support to say chemtrails are real.

Cloud seeding at the base and mid levels of thunderstorms, does not leave these vast huge trails, and hello..its not done in clear blue sky, it is cloud seeding, not blue sky seeding.

You could never get that much material in a large transport aircraft, let alone a Lear Jet, King Air, Cessna 340, or Piper Cheyenne to leave some huge trail across the sky

Originally posted by firepilot
Putting silver iodide flares in clouds, is not "chemtrails" no matter how much the chemtrail believers try to use that as support to say chemtrails are real.

Cloud seeding at the base and mid levels of thunderstorms, does not leave these vast huge trails, and hello..its not done in clear blue sky, it is cloud seeding, not blue sky seeding.

You could never get that much material in a large transport aircraft, let alone a Lear Jet, King Air, Cessna 340, or Piper Cheyenne to leave some huge trail across the sky

And your research shows you this because......

Please, inform the public how you came about this knowledge.

Until then, I will warn them, of people who take it lightly.

Glad you lioke the photo, there are loads more like it on 'Airliners.net'. Just for the hell of it I also did a search for 'Chemtrail' and got '0' matches, oh well.

Next time someone is justifying Chemtrails on the basis of an aeroplane criss crossing the sky in a grid pattern and arguing that airliners don't criss cross, show them this one;

Originally posted by cutbothways

Originally posted by firepilot
Putting silver iodide flares in clouds, is not "chemtrails" no matter how much the chemtrail believers try to use that as support to say chemtrails are real.

Cloud seeding at the base and mid levels of thunderstorms, does not leave these vast huge trails, and hello..its not done in clear blue sky, it is cloud seeding, not blue sky seeding.

You could never get that much material in a large transport aircraft, let alone a Lear Jet, King Air, Cessna 340, or Piper Cheyenne to leave some huge trail across the sky

And your research shows you this because......

Please, inform the public how you came about this knowledge.

Until then, I will warn them, of people who take it lightly.

Umm, that is what cloud seeding is. Did you not know what it was before it was linked to chemtrails? You can look up any of my statements and see that they are real, I mean you did read about cloud seeding didnt you?

Do I also have to tell you that winter is cold, and summer is warm?

I will let you make some more statements and let yourself look silly before I tell you my proof

China's basis for trying to keep the coming olympics stormless is silver iodide. The use of silver Iodide was the result of research and experimentation of weather manipulation in the U.S.
Our government used to pay millions a year on weather manipulation research. That number has slowly lowered over the years, but what I'm saying is that the entire use of silver iodide in weather manipulation is based on research we conducted right here in the U.S.. (and continue to conduct).

Technically, weather manipulation has it's good applications and it's bad applications. Originally, weather manipulation was experimented with for use as a weapon of sorts. But it also has the potential to decreaes hurricane strength by 15%, create rain in areas hard-hit by drought, etc.. The only problem is that if this research is going on under the military they could be using god knows what to try and manipulate the weather. Black programs have no oversite and no ethical guidelines. They can do what they want with that money and not answer to anyone. The military's misuse of black-budget funding, if you remember, did result in people dying at area51 back when they were burning off untold amounts of stealth byproducts during the
F-117/Hav-Blue stealth fighter production and research. The wives of the dead soldiers sued the government only to be stonewalled.

President Clinton released presidential determination 95-45 announcing that Area51 didn't have to release any of it's medical records or personnel records for reasons of national security which were not specified. The widows of the soldiers couldn't get the time of day from the same military that got their husbands killed because they didn't want to truck the hazardous waste off the base and draw attention to their activities.

How can the military honestly be trusted not to repeat the same mistakes of it's past only in the form of weather manipulation experiments? This is why I still don't exactly believe that chemtrails are all stupid hoaxes. I do, however, think that people have gone overboard with claims and confusing the public with conflicting information and cluttered research that is loosely grounded in truth and science.

-ChriS

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All the weather projects I know of are either state, local, or private company paying for them, with general aviation aircraft used.

A contrail in a clear blue sky, stretching for miles, is obviously not how you would use silver iodide. Its not exactly going to find clouds of supercooled water that way, so its rather comical when they link some vast contrail across a clear sky at 30,000 ft, with cloud seeding of precipitation.

EVERY time chemtrail believers show a plane with their exclamation of how they finally got proof of their chemplanes as they call it, its always been something other than they they said it was. You wonder if they were intentionally trying to mislead.

Off the top of my head, this thing with the French KC-135 has been repeated with a Piper Cherokee as a chemplane, a Gulfstream 1 used for air sampling (apparently the nozzles facing forward were not enough of a clue), a Navy E-6 TACAMO dumping fuel (its been debunked dozens of times but they still keep trotting it out), airliners with wingtip contrails during landing, etc etc.






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