This is a funny thread! First there are pics of a French KC-135 with wingtip refueling drogues, then another link to a webpage of cloud seeding silver iodine generators on a twin engine cessna, King Air 200 and Lear-35

No plane carry enough to make some vast trails across the sky, especially small plane. The probes on the wings of the King Air, are scientific instruments to measure water droplet size and also airborne particulates. I know exactly what they are, because I have flown those exact operations for that company.

We are back to Xs again? That nonsense..How many times is it explained, planes can have intersecting paths...are they supposed to all make their way around the country on parallel routes?

Many airports and cities have navaids (radio beacon or gps fix) that is used as a point on the routing, just like a freeway interchange with some roads going east-west, some going north-south.

If this really is a refueling pod (and it looks exactly like the links I posted with the prop on the front and everything) then at least some of what Ted Tweitmeyer is true. The prop spins which creates an electrical current which runs a pump. This pumps the fuel through the umbilical to the refueling aircraft. The scrunched up donut shaped thing inside the pod in the rense photos is exactly what these refueling pods are fitted with. It is basically a basket with a valve on the end of the umbilical.

I'm just confused as to why Ted would say this is evidence of planes creating chemtrails? Then alot of people here seemingly take this for what Ted makes it seem worth. Chemtrailing, for all I know, may actually be taking place but this is not evidence of that, nor is it evidence of any kind other than a refueling pod mounted on an aircraft just as our own KC-135's are.

-ChriS

So you want it proven that those are not chemtrail devices? You have already made up your mind those are for chemtrails apparently.

There is one thing that has never changes, chemmies still know nothing about aviation, and anyone who knows things about aviation is not a chemmie. Chemmie - people who indulge in this chemtrails silliness.

I can tell you exactly what those are, but I am sure you will still believe it is all chemtrail gear.

First pic - Engine exhaust and core of the turbofan. Pylon for wingtip fueling. Some planes have probes for getting gas in air, and not the receptacle like most USAF airplanes. And with wingtip pods with hose and drogues that extend, can refuel 2 planes at a time.

2nd pics shows the drogue that extends out that the probe plugs into.

Wind turbine on front acts to pump the fuel.

This is one of the funniest things i have seen in a long time, I need to post this over on the aviation board here.


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You chemtrail people are truly unbelievable. You KEEP insisting that there are unexplainable aspects to these trails, when we have METEOROLOGISTS AND PILOTS giving you answers to every detail you ask.

Thoroughly, thoroughly debunked. Check any of the pages associated with OZweatherman. And then you have a knowledgeable pilot in Zaphod here who you refuse to listen to.

I think perhaps that you want for it to be true so badly that you make yourself thick enough for all logic to be blocked.

Mods, find a way to sticky OZ's threads to the top of gen consp.. I think all chemtrail talk should be moved to skunkworks, as it always turns into one big mess of illogical slant that never ends in anything but frustration. And people keep starring the perpetrators of this garbage!

Looks like Ted Twatmeyer really jumped the gun on this one...this sort of thing is becoming all too common.

The rense pic of the supposed chem-gear also matches exactly with the first pic I included in my last post of the refueling pod. Notice the 3 black stripes (all same) Their locations (all the same) and the #2 lettering on the pod itself (also all the same on both pods).

I immediately was suspicious of the OP's link not because it is rense but because I've seen Ted T's supposed apollo moon landing conspiracy photos and he was, more or less, basing the entire conspiracy on a few completely normal photos that prove nothing. I took a close look at the photos this time also and (again) this doesn't prove anything.

I think the sad part about this is that some chemtrail believers see all these photos mixed in with all this research and theoretical nonsense and put 2 and 2 together thinking that everything is linked. That just isn't necessarily the case. Nothing in the photos proves anything other than this is an aircraft (probably a refueling aircraft) taxiing. Meanwhile you have all these people reading this stuff thinking it must be proof of a conspiracy because of how Ted T. presents it (linked in with all his conspiracy research and other photos).

This is why you have people out there thinking contrails are chemtrails. People are confused..

I can't say one way or another about the chemtrail conspiracy in general because, personally, I am undecided. If the evidence is there, show me something more tangible than simple photos of a refueling aircraft taxiing down a runway. Personally, I have no idea why Ted would do that other than maybe he just didn't know it was something completely normal. I think this just goes to show that you always have to look at this type of thing with a skeptical mindset regardless of your pre-conceived notions or beliefs..


-ChriS


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Yeah you're right. I notice now that I see all the windows too LOL. So you think these pods/aircraft are RAAF/British ? I'm curious now because the pod in the rense images matches exactly with the image I posted earlier. Possibly the same type of fueling pod? I just don't see any markings that would tell you one way or another but you are obviously way more knowledgeable than me when it comes to aircraft even though I've spent 6 years as active duty Air Force . I know from threads I've participated in the past that you know more about military aircraft than most other people I know. Thanks.

-ChriS

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Originally posted by BlasteR
Yeah you're right. I notice now that I see all the windows too LOL. So you think these pods/aircraft are RAAF/British ?

No, that's the RAF not the RAAF. The RAAF is Australian, IIRC Royal Australian Air Force. Yes they obviously mean to confuse people.

Anyway, still a refuelling plane, not a sprayer. Why can't chemtrail believers leave identifying plane parts to people who happen to know about planes? Anyone who knows a little bit about how air forces work can recognise that pod for what it is. And that little gap with the pylon, like they need it to be a perfect thing with no gap, it's not like it would make much difference to the airflow.

Edit: just got to ask, why would a top secret Chemtrail plane be in a position for some passers by to take pictures of it anyway?

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