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Originally posted by xpert11
reply to post by GhostR1der
I'm a kiwi myself and if the opportunity arose I don't think even 100 acres of free land would be enough to get me to become a citizen of the new country . I very regard the Republic or rather the US political model has being very unsound because it puts the country future in the hands of a minority by design .
Give a parliamentary democracy with Proportional Representation or in the very least a step away from First Past the Post and I would be on my way . Since the majority of people on this thread favour a Republic I guess I would have to help found another nation elsewhere making me a "Founding Father. "
Originally posted by Extralien
Guns = control = less freedom.
If the citizens of the free country had guns, and there was an argument between two individuals. One carries his gun, the other left his at home. The gun carrier shoots and kills the unarmed. Effectively he has the right as it's a free country, but the unarmed had rights to freedom too.
Originally posted by rikriley
. The actual government to be implemented in Freedom Land is still in discussion with the pros and cons of each type of limited government
A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
Originally posted by BradKell
reply to post by rikriley
So you are not oppossed to corporate taxation (neither am I, just looking to clarify). If not oppossed to corporate taxation, I see no problem in Freedom profitting from it, taking Big Business money to better the lands and lives.
The No Taxes you refer to are of Income Tax being placed on INDIVIDUALS. This would be nice, to see all of our paycheck.
This leads to a few questions, but of less importance. Is a Rental Property subject to the Corporate Tax? What is the Tax Percentage (I assume a flat rate unless things like Pollution or other such things come into play).
So, all land must begin as State land. If given for a business it stays State Land (i.e. the mines, where a Lease is done) and the Business gets tax to help support Freedom. Trades outside (Exports) are also charged. (This leads to double taxation, Boston Tea Party) but if done right where it does not impact the citizens of Freedom's price at the store this can be done.
If land is given to an individual to develope then his 'home area' is HIS LAND, as is all undeveloped land.
Is that about right, and if not please clarify.
I know there are many things that must be done, as you state. This is why many great minds are needed. However, the plan must preceed the action, and as we are already engaged in this lively discussion and have many great minds here at ATS... why not flesh out the plan now? Let me know how I can help. Creating Nations from scratch, great fun. Like a board game. (Not to make light, things can be pivotal and important and still be fun).
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by Ironclad
Where are your guns?
Can one be truly free without the means of effective self-protection?
Originally posted by BradKell
xpert11, I call you on your statement. You state you will see RikRiley at the Constitutional Convention... and now he has called one! LOL!
Will you grace us with your prescense in the building of Freedom?