If New Free Country existed would you move?, page 2
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reply posted on 11-5-2008 @ 10:41 PM by Anti-Tyrant
Originally posted by rikriley
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It is not necessarily the 100 acres that is great, but it is what you do with that 100 acres of land.
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I was actually planning on just roaming about, but your ideas seem reasonable.

I suppose we could put some roads down at the very least, so my land isn't acting as an obstacle to my fellow free-dominians.


reply posted on 11-5-2008 @ 10:51 PM by rikriley
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There you go you are already thinking about how to help your fellow man or woman on your new land in your new country, Freedom. It is all about helping one another living in a peaceful coexistence and if that means giving your neighbor free passage by building a road on your land so be it. Rik Riley



reply posted on 11-5-2008 @ 11:06 PM by Anti-Tyrant
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Exactly, it is this idea that one is restricted to a single place called a 'home' that drives us apart from one another, when in reality our entire planet can be called 'home'.

Of course, it's a pretty damn big house, and the a/c occasionally goes a bit ape, but it's our home and i wouldn't trade it for anything other - even if it was made of solid bloody diamond i wouldn't trade it.

I love this planet like i do my family.

This might give you the impression i'm some sort of tree-hugging hippy, but i assure you it's quite the opposite.

The Trees are our Furniture, our aesthetic materials with which to improve our home.

The same goes for the Rock and the Oil - they can be used to improve our home.

Human society exists on Earth, and Earth exists within the Galaxy.

There is an entire universe out there and a large percentage of it is unclaimed - And because of this fact, there is a chance that one day your dream will come true, RikRiley.

He who believes in his dreams has the power to make them his reality.

p.s; Okay, just realised i went a bit over-board with the whole purity of thought thing there, sorry.


reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 01:00 AM by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by Equinox99



The irony of that statement is that this Country was formed by people running away from their problems i.e running away from British rule.

**edited to add: and by "this Country" I meant USA Guess what I said doesn't necessarily apply to Canada

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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 06:30 AM by blayze
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Actually there is no need for personal wage/income tax. Nearly everything from petrol to tobacco is taxed, there is corporate taxes, and a million other taxes that raise significant amount of revenue. All your personal income tax does is pay the interest to the fed.

Before 1913 in USA there was most of the social infrastructure you mentioned but no personal income tax.





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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 09:19 AM by Alethia
Originally posted by zephyrs
Of course I would. I really can't imagine anyone saying no to the offer. But how would a new, "free" country sit with the rest of the world.


The same as when the US was formed, it was called the new world. The rest of the world looked on in awe, and for a century the US was idolized as being truly free. Now, Europe looks back on the US with laughter, as it watches it destroy itself and get drunk on it's own power, and becomes a shadow of it's former self.

The irony is that, when the people left Europe and formed the United States of America, and turned it into the worlds superpower, Europe was forced to change to compete with this new great nation. It was shown what it could do if it wasn't so corrupt. And, as the EU has risen, the US has fallen. SO maybe if a new country called Freedom did exist, the rest of the world would be forced to look upon themselves once again, and to see where it has all gone wrong.

However, as nice as this all sounds, the land called Freedom will start out as it was meant to be but over time will, without realizing it, become as corrupt, if not more so, than the lands it left behind. Not because the idea was wrong, but because as people, we are all corruptable in some way, and are in many ways powerless to stop becoming corrupted. Whilst many say they would use the 100 acres to become self-sufficient and a haven for peace, others will realize the potential money to be made from the land and exploit it. That is the history of the US, and those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it.


reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 09:28 AM by Alethia
Originally posted by Solarskye
Running away from a land that is free where thousands of fellow Americans sacrificed their lives and blood to keep this great country here for all of us. It sounds like all of you are a bunch of gimme, gimme generation cry babies who don't want to work hard and fight for something. If you want a hundred acres of land then work your butt off and buy it. Nothings free unless you earn it and work hard to keep it. Gimme, gimme, gimme, that's all I hear anymore. No wonder our country is sinking. Everybody wants everything given to them. It doesn't work that way and should never work that way. Keep dreaming if you want. I'll stay right here in the good olé' USA.


What you say is not strictly true. If you look at the early history of the US, you will see that on many occasions, there were "competitions" where the pilgrims and new arrivals could literally ride out and stake a claim to land, and this is certainly the case when people started to move out west, they literally picked a place they liked and claimed it. And that is what is being theorized in this thread, basically this land called "Freedom" would be the early history of the US.

I totally agree with your point that millions of Americans, over the past centuries, have fought and died to keep this country great. But if they were alive today, do they think the country as it currently stands is the country they were fighting for? I would say not, particularly when I think of my grandparents. This is not the country, or for that matter world, they were fighting for in WWII, so did they die in vain?


reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 09:36 AM by Ironclad
reply to post by rikriley



Such a country dos exist.

It's called Australia....

Won't fins some Government pulling peoples freedom here.

Not enough Millitary to back the Government up if the people decide they don't like it..lol

Sure we got some tough & stupid laws comming in, as our Leaders try to emulate the US, but Aussies are pretty well known for not taking any crap.

So the Government here will never try to push us too far.

Thus, We'll be a much more freedom loving country long after the US has totally enslaved it's people & sent them to work in the mines...loool.
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