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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:19 PM by child of light

I am not very good at this and I used the photos posted but I wanted to see if there were some kind of movement of the "objects" in a GIF animation .. I might have some of the photos out of order but what do you guys think ?

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:24 PM by TeslaandLyne

reply to post by sarcastic

Interesting and if those lights in Germany were closer together:

COAST TO COAST AM WITH GEORGE NOORY

www.coasttocoastam.com...

Its an illustration but close to separate lights and not a blurry
string of connected lights.
Some how these things get stuck in the sky and jump around.
If it was invented by Tesla, it is not ready for prime time.
Like most of Tesla inventions but because he must have done enough
experiments he hoodwink a bunch of energy scientists to making another
weird flying machine.

Did I just put down Tesla, but in a good way.
His crazy ideas must gave been followed up with questionable results.

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:36 PM by TeslaandLyne

reply to post by blueray

At least you don't revert to name calling and deter from your postings.

I saw posters with a wealth of photos and bickering to go along with
every thread.

Ever see any high flying planes generating trails.
Perhaps you are at a gathering point, at least for that evening.

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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:40 PM by TeslaandLyne

reply to post by child of light

They appear rock solid in their positions.

The ones that jump around must be stuck for some reason.

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:51 PM by MastaG

reply to post by child of light

Starred! That's great! Could you do the same for ALL the images?
Thank you for your input.

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 01:02 PM by blueray

Many planes fly in high altitude over the places the objects flew.

Child of light: Nice animation!

The only thing is though that they flew in the opposite direction, but that doesnt matter

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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 01:14 PM by Skyfloating

Regarding IP-Check requests

I hereby announce that IP-comparisons of the members in question all revealed different locations. This does not prove or disprove anything, just thought I´d let you know.

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 01:43 PM by TrentReznor

Great pics.

I Own a Cannon EOS 30D too,

and can say looking at the objects round lens bluring that the actual object was a much smaller point of light...and maybe 50% brighter than the out of focus blobs seen.

just noting on that. that you should be aware these objects wernt big round orange balls of light.

I really dont know what they could be.... not fireworks,

intresting pics.

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 01:51 PM by child of light

reply to post by blueray

Ok.. So I re-arranged the photos and took out a couple of frames and I think this is probably better ...

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 01:53 PM by child of light

reply to post by MastaG

Unfortunately I don't have the resources to do that at work ... If no one has done it by the time I get home maybe I can give it a shot ...

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 02:06 PM by deadcatsrule

As I stated in my post.Everything but the photos looks a good start to a long hoax/thread.Again if not then I apologize

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 02:29 PM by sandman692

Originally posted by flice
reply to post by nablator

hey hey... I never said that they were fake. I believe them to be very real.
But I got the feeling that the method used is the good old "the more that say it the more true it becomes."
The truth in this case being that it was "orbs" rather than anything else...
because the new arrivals all were going:
"yes I saw it.. it was not balloons"
"yes I saw it.. it was not balloons"

I never made any conclusions what it might be. I just gave facts.

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i can't help but feel like you're referring to me when you say that, since i did refer to it as an orb. Firstly, the "it" in "yes i saw IT" you're referring to is what i can only logically conclude are the orbs in the OP. This is not what i said. i saw 1 orb that looked exactly like those in the OP, and on a different day. if you weren't in fact referring to me, than i apologize for jumping to conclusions, but it did sound a lot like what i posted.

i also thought i saw a post where someone asked where i was stationed, and to that i can only say that i choose not to say where im stationed at, but that im in Germany. to say that im stationed on an american base and then name the base would be a violation of operations security, because in past threads i've made, i described what i did in the army, so that would then tell everyone where im stationed and where to find me on that post.

since i have already stated what i do in the army in a past thread, ill restate it here, since i feel it is at least somewhat applicable to this topic. i'm an air traffic controller for the army. by no means does this make me an expert on UFO's or anything of the sort, because as i said before, im a skeptic, but what i saw this morning was the strangest thing i've ever seen, and another air traffic controller (my facility chief) who has been in ATC for more than 10 years and never seen a UFO, i thought it was interesting to come here and see in big bold letters "UFO's IN GERMANY!"

so in conclusion, im not saying that it is a UFO, or isn't, but i saw something that looked exactly like those things in those pictures, and since it was the first time i've ever encountered anything of that sort that i couldn't easily dismiss, i felt that here would be the perfect place to share my first "UFO" sighting

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 02:35 PM by MonkeyJug

Originally posted by deadcatsrule
blueray,bluepowder,eltom,HaDeZz, allnew members with in the last week.My .02 they all know each other and are trying to hoax every one .It's been done befor.My apologies if I'm wrong,but I don't buy it....dc

also, if they are german - how come their english is so good?

it's almost as if it's blueray's mother-tongue?

germany, in general, is a poor nation of english speakers, yet his spelling and grammar is impeccable, as are the others...

also, please accept my apologies if i'm wrong...

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 02:48 PM by MonkeyJug

if your ip addresses come good, my guess is you're all squaddie mates based in western europe having a wind-up...

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 02:51 PM by blueray

I can't speak for others but I study in London. Does that explain my english skills to your gratitude master?

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 02:51 PM by bluepowder

Originally posted by MonkeyJug

Originally posted by deadcatsrule
blueray,bluepowder,eltom,HaDeZz, allnew members with in the last week.My .02 they all know each other and are trying to hoax every one .It's been done befor.My apologies if I'm wrong,but I don't buy it....dc

also, if they are german - how come their english is so good?

it's almost as if it's blueray's mother-tongue?

germany, in general, is a poor nation of english speakers, yet his spelling and grammar is impeccable, as are the others...

also, please accept my apologies if i'm wrong...

since i'm directly being referred to here, i would like to answer to this. i for one just happen to have a "knack" for languages of any kind. i have been studying in the netherlands and learned the language within 3 months almost to the point where native speakers had a hard time telling if i were dutch or not (if i made an effort, at least). same in school with englisch, i never studied hard, but got all straight a's (1's or 2's in the german system). it's just the way it is. maybe it's because i'm a musician by profession, and as i happen to view music as a kind of language maybe that's why i'm a bit better at this than some other folk. by the way, to say that germany is a nation of poor english speaking people in general has got to be the most ignorant thing i've had to hear or read in quite a while. let's see you write a lentghy text in german, THEN we can talk.

well, as it is, i'm quickly growing tired of being accused to be this, that and the other. i know what i saw. i know i'm not connected to anybody here, and i know for certain that i don't need to proof anything you you or anybody. ip's have been checked, that's ok. if the mods or anyone comes up with an idea on how to disprove our conncetion, i'm all for it since i'm genuinily interested in this case (hell, it's the first sighting i've ever been part of, i'm really enjoying this, it's pretty darn thrilling to say the least!) and i want to see a healthy discussion develop all aound this.

however, i refuse to be accused of above said things any more than i have been so far. if you're gonna say something, either add to the discussion or don't say a thing.

an to the guy who assembled the animation: good job! that's exactly how it looked like when i saw it, despite the fact that from my point of view, they were in fact moving from left to right (can't give north/east/south/west as i'm not too savvy with those things).

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 02:59 PM by blueray

Yes, good job with the animation!

reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 03:02 PM by eltom

Originally posted by MastaG
reply to post by nablator

My apologies, blueray, bluepowder, eltom, HaDeZz. No offense meant.
It's simply all too strange and unbelievable: the aperture times, no autofocus, 4 new members...

Yeah I know. I came across this board reading an article on Spiegel Online (a well known german Newspaper) about a totally different topic. Then I found this thread and read it. I then registered to say "yes, I saw it, too".

I know you have to be sceptical, and it's totally ok. Believe it or not... I know what I've seen and that's why I posted it here. It's the thing shown on the photos, I'm sure.

Regards, Thomas

Important Topic Updates

Sorry, it wasn't Spiegel Online, it was heise Online:

www.heise.de...

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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 03:11 PM by ianr5741

I'm not sure if the readers are going to be able to follow me on this one. But I'll say it anyway...

The first clue I look for when I'm trying to detect a hoaxed image, is whether or not my eye can detect that the "ufo" in question seems to be an addition to the image, or part of it.

How do I do this? Not by looking for photoshop clues (although this is very useful) but by looking for effects within the scene that are the result of diffraction of light.

Whenever you have a bright object in the scene, the light waves wash out nearby regions of the image. Also, they affect everything over the entire field of view. This is explained mathematically by the wave theory of light.

If the image of the UFO has an affect on the whole scene, then I consider it to be plausible that there was actually something in the field of view when the photograph was taken.

If the ufo exists by itself as a bright blob, with no affect on the rest of the image... it appears to me to be an addition to the image via some kind of image manipulating program.

Some characteristics to look for if the UFO is authentic:

- A bright, glowing object will create a washed out, hazy effect over the entire image, with regions next to the object itself being oversaturated with a blob-like overshoot of the outline of the object itself.

- The ambient illumination of an object which is not emitting light will be representative of the environment around it. Reflected light from objects nearby will illuminate the surface of the object. Blue sky will make the top sides of it blue-ish, while the bottom will be slightly green or brown depending on whether or not the ground is verdant or dry soil.

- Camera lens flare will be present if the object reflects the sun or emits light of its own

Programming CGI and using many powerful tools of animation have taught my eye to be extremely critical of photographs or video of alleged UFOs. Even so, I DO believe that extraterrestrial life is real, and they ARE visiting this planet.

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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 03:14 PM by eltom

Originally posted by ianr5741

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The first clue I look for when I'm trying to detect a hoaxed image, is whether or not my eye can detect that the "ufo" in question seems to be an addition to the image, or part of it....

So, you found any clues in the pictures above?