Originally posted by Cyberbian
This thread amazes me. What influential black man in America would not have associations with all sorts of Interesting and eccentric people.
So by virtue of that all black men must be extremist nutcases, and no black man can be trusted. But you are not a bigot! No you are not being an
Let me start off by going on record as not liking ANY of the three candidates we currently have. I don't 'hate' Senator Obama, though. 'Hate'
implies some sort of personal dislike, and I don't know him well enough for that. Now, let's rumble.
I don't have a problem with Senator Obama 'have(ing) associations with all sorts of interesting and eccentric people', and I don't necessarily
think that having such associations makes him an 'extremist nutcase'. I *do* have a problem with a man (or woman) who seeks the highest office in
the land failing to distance himself from the likes of an unrepentant member of the Weather Underground. I also have trouble believing that anyone
could attend a church for around 20 years, and not have some idea of the political leanings of his pastor. Either Senator Obama is absolutely clueless
(in which case, I'd question his ability to conduct meaningful policy discussions), or he thinks I'm so naive that I'll believe that, in two
decades, he never heard any of those...shall we say...provocative statements, and never bothered to look into Black Liberation Theology (in which
case, he's insulting my intelligence). Does having problems like those make me racist? Before you answer, think about how many people here (and
elsewhere) are willing to condemn President Bush because he has 'associations with all sorts of interesting and eccentric people' (like the Skull
and Bones Society)...
I am not sold on Obama, but I do see what appears to be a well meaning human being. His public persona is the most tightly controlled I have ever
witnessed, and that concerns me, since we never get to see beneath the veneer.
His image is obviously a construct, an extremely carefully built construct designed by an extremely good team. I wish to know who that team is.
However I know enough about Clinton and McCain to know that they are poison.
Just to show that I'm not a totally disagreeable cuss, I'll agree that Obama's image is very much a constructed one, and I share your concerns
about who's doing the construction. I'm not convinced that Clinton or McCain are 'poison', at least no more so than any other professional
If you think the media loves Obama, well you don't read much do you?
I have seen times in this campaign where out of thousands of articles in Google News, only two or three addressed Obama in a primarily negative light,
and the rest were pro Clinton.
It is the media's aversion to Obama which suggests to me that he may be of some value, much like the fact that Ron Paul was not sanctioned.
I don't think the media 'loves' Senator Obama, but I do think that they are forced to tread very carefully where he is concerned. Can you imagine
the media madhouse if Senator McCain were associated with, as an example, David Duke? Or if he'd had a 20+ year record of attending the Westboro
Baptist Church (of "God Hates Fags" fame)?
We most need someone not sanctioned by the parties. The devil would suit that role for me.
Yep...that's Senator Obama...the ultimate outsider, not sanctioned at all by the major political parties. All those Democratic delegates,
superdelegates, and popular votes really brand him as the outsider here. Holy smokes, I'm getting good at this...I actually got that out with a
If he turned out to be truly for the rights of the people, well that would be just a bonus wouldn't it!
Who knows *what* he's for? Oh...I forgot. "Hope" and "Change". Notice that details on what he "hopes", and on the "change" he wants to make
are rather vague, and even seem to shift from audience to audience. I don't like to hear any candidate, regardless of skin color or party affiliation
throw around empty buzz-words. It's time for the Senator from Illinois to start filling in some details on his domestic and foreign agenda. An entire
resume made up of the words "Hope" and "Change" wouldn't convince me to give you a job as a pizza delivery man, never mind as a President.