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What has the government stopped you from doing today that you could do freely in the past?

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posted on May, 12 2008 @ 08:17 PM
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A license is basically paying the government to be allowed to do something. Why should I have to pay for something that is in the Bill of Rights?


More to the point, if you need a permit, it is no longer a right at all. It is a privilege, that can be extended and revoked arbitrarily.

If you need the permission granted in a permit it is not a right. You don't have to ask permission to exercise a right.




posted on May, 13 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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The government has kept me from leaving its thrice-damned borders today without going through a lot of 'legal' idiocy. Soon, we won't be able to leave no matter what.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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What has the government stopped you from doing today that you could do freely in the past?


- walk around in any metropolitan area and taking pictures of government buildings / etc (I am fascinated with architecture). apparently, these days, taking pictures while on vacation is a security risk in some places.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 09:39 PM
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I find it strange that there is very little written about the economic theft by our government, or only mild expression of concern about it. The government is stopping me from keeping the fruits of my labor. They are stealing from me.

Since 1941, the confiscation of an individual's earnings by government has increased from zero to (estimated) 60 percent. Income tax and SS are two major federal taxes. Most states have an income tax. Other taxes include a tax on gasoline, on telephones, various sales taxes, property taxes, driver's and automobile licenses, the list could go on forever.

But it is the trend that is most important. If a tax upon an individual's right to make a living is not unconstitutional, the government can legally confiscate 100% of the citizen's earnings. And this appears to be the object of government. Taxation increases as a percentage of earnings each year. Is not a feudal society, or slavery, an obvious conclusion ???

But this is in addition to the theft so ingeniously done by the Federal Reserve system with the complicity of Congress. Between the two of them, they operate a printing press that steals our money by inflation and we blissfully sit back and say nothing.

And it is the theft by government that funds the corruption and unwanted actions of government. War-mongers and merchants of death gain blood-money for killing our sons and daughters. Every U.S. military action for the past 130 years has been foisted on the citizenry by deliberate lies from DC. And Robert McMurray in LOOSING GROUND, OUR FAILED SOCIAL PROGRAMS has, among others, additionally documented that government social programs have destroyed the goals proclaimed to justify the various programs.

Government is nothing but a rip-off.

It has been the low cost of government that provided the unique structure, and rewarded individual motivation, which lead to the technological advancements over the past 200 years. The escalating cost of government is now driving jobs overseas and destroying ambition. Individuals must now spend more time trying to keep their earnings from government than being a successful business man. The advancement is coming to a standstill. Government costs are destroying our nation.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 10:08 PM
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Well I could probably flip the finger to a cop without fearing getting tazed to death in the past. I dont think I'd risk that now.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 10:31 PM
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I'm a librarian and let me say the Patriot Act has changed everything - including your right to library privacy - including the books you check out at your local library.

The Patriot Act requires libraries to keep a list of every book every patron checks out. Why? So your record can be searched at will by government officials who may believe you are a terrorist or you risk harm to others.

A lot of libraries tried to get around this, citing a citizens right to privacy, however the government counter-acted by saying they would withhold funding to libraries who don't comply, which basically means no more books.

A librarian will tell a patron they don't have a list of books a person has read, but they do - it's just not for public use - including yours.



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 11:33 PM
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We never had the government searching through our library records before. If it was good enough for the first 200 years of American history, why change it?



posted on May, 13 2008 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by ianr5741
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We never had the government searching through our library records before. If it was good enough for the first 200 years of American history, why change it?


You can check out this link for further info: Libraries & the USA Patriot Act



posted on May, 14 2008 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by yellowcard
This is all from the same quote, I hope this doesn't fall under "obsessive" quoting because I've been messaged about that before...sorry if it does, but it's all from one quote...I'm just breaking it down



I can no longer:

Have ONE beer and drive (none, not even tic-tacs) not that I give a rats ass anyway.


Of course you can, you'll just probably kill someone and be charged for murder...if they find alcohol in your system. Quite frankly I'd rather be pulled over and get a ticket than be charged with murder.


Take a leak in the forest - not that I give a rats ass anyway


Yes, you can, it just has to be on your property and can't be on public property


Make a campfire in the wild - Not that I give a rats ass anyway


Yes you can, unless the state declares a drought...frankly I'd rather the state keep some idiot from burning down thousands of acres of forest and costing home owners and tax payers millions of dollars to put it out.


Carry a loaded gun on me - not that I give a rats ass anyway


Yes, you can, get a license


hunt, fish or forage above 2100 feet above sea level - not that I give a rats ass anyway


Never heard this one


burn my garden leaves and grass and crap - not that I give a rats ass anyway


Yes you can, unless your local government prohibits it, which isn't bound by the constitution; this pretty much falls under the camp fire quote.


hunt whatever I feel like whenever I feel like it and wherever I feel like it and for no money and on public land (nor my own) - not that I give a rats ass anyway

fish whatever fish I want to whenever I want to and wherever I want to, on my own land or public land, with or without paying for it - not that I give a rats ass anyway


You can fish anywhere you want as long as the bank you're fishing from isn't owned by a private residence that you don't have permission from...I think that's called property rights...you can fish on the water because no one owns the water (on fluid water, like a river; ponds and lakes are different)...that's why they have casinos on rivers. You can hunt anywhere you want as long as you have permission and you can hunt on public land...sure you have to have a license but again that's state law, and it's not bound by the constitution.


protect my life with firearms - not that I give a rats ass anyway


Yes you can, you hear a one out of a million case on the news, I believe most state laws say you can't shoot to kill him/her if he was running away...that's not exactly protecting your life so much as avenging


drive an unregistered car or one with borrowed plates, on public roads OR EVEN MY OWN ROADS... - not that I give a rats ass anyway


That's not true per se, and that's a state law not federal


take an airplane ride without paying the U.N. carbon tax - not that I am ever going on a plane again with all my gun carrying habits...


You can't pump gas without paying a Federal tax either.


drink in public - not that I give a rats ass anyway


That's a local law, you can "brown bag" in many areas.


OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT WITHOUT A PASSPORT - I had to buy a passport to get all my 50 credit cards hehehe..... JUMPER..!!


That's not true and is more than likely the bank's decision (which is not government run)

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[edit on 12-5-2008 by yellowcard]

you keep quoting thats STATE?LOCAL law not Federal.......would you mind telling that to the good people of California who voted for medical
marijuana, because the Federal Government keeps stomping all over their rights.



posted on May, 15 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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I get more atttention from the local "law enforcement officers" since 9-11. This morning I was stopped and questioned, asked for ID etc., when I went out to the county for my twice-weekly early-morning run (I have been doing this for about 17 years). I can only imagine the crimes that are being committed elsewhere while I am being harassed here.



posted on May, 15 2008 @ 12:19 PM
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I told a cop I wan't afraid of him, and got tazed ten times and kicked in the head for it, on my own front porch.

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