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Should high gas prices cause Congress to open ANWAR?


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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 02:21 PM by Pellevoisin


First, I challenge your oil exec's statistics.

(FYI: the dearth of west coast refineries means all that much bandied about Alaskan crude goes to Asia for refining and sales.)

Bottom line: Big Oil is in no way an ally of the U.S. economy much less the U.S. American people.



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reply posted on 26-6-2008 @ 08:10 PM by plumranch



First, I challenge your oil exec's statistics.

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Let us know how it goes. I'd like to hear more.

We have refineries in Washington and California. How much they are able to refine seems to be a mystery. There was talk about putting our oil into pipelines to other facilities and even taking it throught the canal. The other alternative was to ship it to the east and taking a credit to use on mideast or other oil.

Alaskans don't really care where our oil goes just so we get a little tax to use our huge overhead expenses. We have roads, airports, RRs, ports, indian and eskimo villages to support more than any other state.

Oil is a worldwide commodity priced on the world market. Doesn't really matter where it goes. The politicians like Obama will make a big deal about it going elsewhere but politicians aren't economists.



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reply posted on 3-7-2008 @ 08:25 PM by plumranch


Here is what Democrats, Liberals and Greenies would like you to believe the ANWAR oil exploration area looks like:


Remember this photo published by their allies the liberal press? Well it is bogus. That area is in the refuge hundreds of miles south of the costal plane proposed exploration area.

The following is a photo of the real exploration area in summer:



And here is a photo taken in winter:




Do they in any way resemble this? (Another "ANWAR" area located hundreds of miles to the south.)




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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 02:26 PM by plumranch


The CEO of JP Morgan made a good point about Congress this morning in a speach in Arlington. He said that not only has Congress not done well, France has done better in reponding to the energy crisis.

Congress has done next to nothing in response to the crisis. It hasn't taken steps to upgrade petroleum import ports, it has done nothing to bring on new refineries, it has done next to nothing to increase vehicle and housing energy efficiency and it has done nothing to bring major oil fields on line such as ANWAR and off shore CA and FL. As a result the people suffer, oil companies profit and politicians blame everyone but themselves (where the blame belongs).

Being proactive requires political sacrifices that Congress refuses to face. They would rather play the blame others game!



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reply posted on 12-7-2008 @ 02:57 PM by plumranch



With gasoline prices above $4 a gallon, Bush and his Republican allies think Americans are less reluctant to allow drilling offshore and in an Alaska wildlife refuge that environmentalists have fought successfully for decades to protect. Nearly half the people surveyed by the Pew Research Center in late June said they now consider energy exploration and drilling more important than conservation, compared with a little over a third who felt that way only five months ago. The sharpest shift in attitude came amung political liberals.



From Bush Urges Congress to Lift Oil Drilling Restrictions
dated today.

Apparently even the liberals are softening their stance on drilliing in ANWAR. Good news indeed!



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