Secret Societies Forum Debate Archive, page 1

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The first Secret Societies debate to be concluded using the Socratic Rule:

Is Masonry taking over the world? - Winner: Rockpuck 2-1


Added on 8-20-2008:

ALightinDarkness vs Rockpuck: A Mason Conspiracy - Winner: ALightinDarkness 3-0

emsed1 vs Ian McLean: The Mason's Just Need A Few Good Men - Winner: Ian McLean 3-2


[edit on 20-8-2008 by TheBorg]

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Originally posted by mapsurfer_
I believe the secret society thing is a bit overblown, in general they exist
with their theory, I'd be glad to discuss further.

Your thoughts?

I think if you start with the issue of income inequality, it becomes clear that there is socio-economic and political engineering being perpetrated by an elite class:

Income Inequality as Statistical Proof of a Conspiracy:
Income Inequality, Proofs of A Conspiracy


From here, check out the quotes straight from the mouths of the elites:

New World Order Quotes – Quotes from world leaders and industrialists highlighting the conspiracy:
New World Order Quotes

And if there was no influence by an organized elite, how could this take place?

Economics and Money Creation - How the Federal Reserve System and Fractional Reserve Banking have forced the masses into debt slavery
Money as Debt - Debt Slavery

Here's some background on how they do it:
Politics and the Occult, Bohemian Grove, Beginnings of the Round Table Groups, The Rothschilds, Freemasonry, The Georgia Guidestones, and much much more:
Occult Mystery Schools - Illuminati - NWO

New World Order and Interlocking Corporate Directorships - Today's corporations are so interlocked that you must start viewing all American corporations and government bureaucracies as a single entity:
NWO - Interlocking Directorships

Here's the end results:

This is a comprehensive analysis of our current financial crisis:
Modern Economic Crisis

New World Order and the Modern Police State
NWO Today - Police State

Globalism and Empire in the New World Order - How the IMF and World Bank allow modern corporations to enslave the third world:
Globalization - Empire in the NWO

9/11 Truth - A compilation of video clips highlighting the inconsistencies behind the "official" story of the events that occured on September 11, 2001:
9-11 Truth Conspiracy

I always thought of, what if the accusations against the masons are wrong, and they are really the good guys. But with what I discovered just today, It's really hard for me now to believe in the explanations of Masons. Something just made them superficial big liars. I hear rumors that Queen Elizabeth ii is somehow associated with the masons. The masons laugh about that rumor and smirk about it saying, that can never happen since it is a fraternity and it is impossible for a women to become a part of it and they don't accept women in the association...almost believed it. but if that is so...then*Snip*?? who is Elizabeth Aldworth???!!! What the *Snip* is she doing in the freemasonry? Don't tell me she's a tranny.LOL

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