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Topic started on 10-5-2008 @ 05:42 AM by TheBorg


In an effort to further the motto of "Deny Ignorance" that we here at ATS so espouse, we're starting a new initiative here. This thread will be used for the explicit purpose of posting results to debates in regard to Secret Societies.

As such, anyone having a question about a topic in this forum should refer to this thread before posting any questions to the board. The questions debated here will have direct links to the debate's first page, and to the right of it, have the winner's name.

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The idea here is to encourage the development of ideas in a constructive way, while helping to answer some of the hard questions that all that come here ask. Anyone having any questions regarding this is free to send a U2U to me, and I will get back with you shortly.

A few rules regarding this though:

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reply posted on 10-5-2008 @ 05:48 AM by TheBorg


The first Secret Societies debate to be concluded using the Socratic Rule:

Is Masonry taking over the world? - Winner: Rockpuck 2-1


Added on 8-20-2008:

ALightinDarkness vs Rockpuck: A Mason Conspiracy - Winner: ALightinDarkness 3-0

emsed1 vs Ian McLean: The Mason's Just Need A Few Good Men - Winner: Ian McLean 3-2


[edit on 20-8-2008 by TheBorg]



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reply posted on 25-9-2008 @ 02:25 AM by mapsurfer_


I believe the secret society thing is a bit overblown, in general they exist
with their theory, I'd be glad to discuss further.

Your thoughts?



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reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 02:51 AM by Anonymous ATS





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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 11:53 PM by 0881823


I agree overblown. I went though 1st interview. Paid the 75 dollars or am about 2. They said i will be confirmed on the lodge masters recondimnation. Nothing but kind people, involved in more charities than any other organization im America. It is about helping those,and when your in a position to help then u doing the same. The only reason for the secretness. Its a secret brotherhood, the wants quality people in it for the right reasons, to help there fellow man. Once you have proven to be a giver, yes they do help advance you in life, if it is in ther power. But no one wants a bunch of ring knockers in it just for there own benifit. Thats just a perk. The main objective is charity, and helping and alliviagting suffering of others. Im hoping once i show them i love to do such things, they could maybe help me facilitate my way into politics, and not for sinical reasons, and I will stay a member even if they cant help in that area. Dont let initiation cerimony storys scare u away. They are safe and thats all i will say



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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 11:53 PM by 0881823


I agree overblown. I went though 1st interview. Paid the 75 dollars or am about 2. They said i will be confirmed on the lodge masters recondimnation. Nothing but kind people, involved in more charities than any other organization im America. It is about helping those,and when your in a position to help then u doing the same. The only reason for the secretness. Its a secret brotherhood, the wants quality people in it for the right reasons, to help there fellow man. Once you have proven to be a giver, yes they do help advance you in life, if it is in ther power. But no one wants a bunch of ring knockers in it just for there own benifit. Thats just a perk. The main objective is charity, and helping and alliviagting suffering of others. Im hoping once i show them i love to do such things, they could maybe help me facilitate my way into politics, and not for sinical reasons, and I will stay a member even if they cant help in that area. Dont let initiation cerimony storys scare u away. They are safe and thats all i will say



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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 12:06 AM by 0881823


There is a ritual at intiation, that might scare many. It is just the way they have been doing it for hundreds of years. The blindfold, in your underwear, while the knife is put to your throat, while you a to promise certain things really is not a threat more carrying on tradition, no on has been hurt and i think people want it to be serious, so they can believe they are apart of something that is so significant, that there life is threated to keep secrets, dont fool your self no one dies here. maybe gets kicked out. but the cloaks and knife add a degree of drama, i think the new member is looking for



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reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 12:08 AM by SpecOpPres1


If you dare take a peek at the true nature of wisdom I suggest you try my book> The Little Book of Light. You will then be initiated into the world above ours.

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