Good points guys, and you are right Arcon; it's not just love, its everything you mentioned.

I am unsure what you meant there, Jn.
If I may try to answer, and forgive me because I am not sure of your meaning, but yes they did gain my trust. I wouldn't say I have been shown miracles or tricked into anything. The trust has been gained honestly, through mutual contact and work. It was sincere communication and verifications from a higher plane. There was no trap, no misdirection, and certainly no taking of anything.
I wasn't down when I did not believe in Christianity and I wasn't looking or searching for anything to fill a void in my life, because there was no void to fill.

DoctorRex's reply is the most inspiring answer so far.

I'm interested in knowing how does Mystic ppl see the problem of evolution? Do spirituality contradict with general atheist's argument?

First time post heh...



[edit on 16-5-2008 by chenge]

Originally posted by chenge
I'm interested in knowing how does Mystic ppl see the problem of evolution? Do spirituality contradict with general atheist's argument?

I'd be happy to answer these questions.

There are atheists who use the moral scapegoat that since there is no God then they are not held accountable for their unethical actions and lifestyle. Then there are the existentialists who are atheists who believe that living a moral life is good and important for its own sake.

In absolute truth, there was a God or Space God as we term it, that used The Light to orchestrate The Big Bang, and there is no God now, as the Godhead was divided up into trillions of yellow-energy angels. We are all that is left of The Original Creator; the reason behind the traditional teaching that "there is a piece of God in each of us."

Regardless of a God-less Universe (for now anyway, that will change), there is, was, and always will be a Higher Power -- The Light on the Other Side. We are all judged by The Light by our application of The Golden Rule and by our ability or lack thereof, to love genuinely and deeply - corresponding in the Spirit to the ability to Radiate Spiritual White Light. The greater the evolution, the greater the ability to Ascend into The Light when free of matter.

There are basically seven planes on the Other Side - as with the seven plane paradigm that is found all over the world - with more to emerge later as highly evolved souls (new Masters) Ascend into The Light.

Does spirituality contradict with the atheists' argument?

Yes, with the non-existentialist atheists, in the sense that we are still all held accountable for our actions, even though there technically is not a God in the archaic, Judeo-Christian meaning.

How do Solist Mystics see the problem of evolution?

The Original Creator, who has yet to come, used The Light to orchestrate The Big Bang. Since that time, evolution has played a role in the unfoldment of corporeal life. That physical evolution was tweaked by large Group Entities (discarnate communities, typically of yellow-energy angels) over the eons so that humanoid life would eventually emerge and form civilizations.

In the general sense, the discarnate dimensions consist of a large number of special interest groups.

This particular world was in its formative stages of humanoid life, with Homo Erectus, when the Zetan-Reptilians - whom the Sumerians referred to as the Anunnaki - came here, colonized, and eventually mixed their DNA with the already evolving hominids, in order to come up with a slave race of Homo sapiens. Thus, the initial purpose of humankind, as the aliens saw it, was not for noble reasons but for selfish ones.

Evidence of this is found in the archaeological findings of Zechariah Sitchin and in the unofficial disclosure of the US Air Force through the testimony of Linda Moulton Howe in the Companion Tape of the documentary called The Mysterious Origins of Man.



[edit on 17-5-2008 by Paul_Richard]

Hi Drakir,

Originally posted by Drakiir
Hi Paul,

Totally agree with you.

Its funny how everything gets a label these days.

A person who constantly doubts anything and everything and put himself in a dead end all the time - Skeptic

Someone who thinks that they can escape the very laws of the universe and be a fence-sitter - Atheist.

Everything is branded these days and its all to soften up the effect. I think the first instead of skeptic should be - someone who is incapable of deduction and reasoning and the second, Atheist - someone who wont commit to a belief and is incapable of reaching a decision on spiritual and religious issues.

Many of them have the intellectual capacity to reason but are blind sighted through prejudice and because they feel more comfortable in not having to feel that their actions will be judged after they cross over. Then there are the existentialist atheists who believe that living a moral life is good for its own sake.

Originally posted by Drakiir
Now thats what they should be called but instead they are branded a name to cover there faults. Its also a good excuse to dismiss any problems by using these labels. if someone asks 'do you believe in Jesus' and the person says 'im an Atheist' than they can walk away from it without having to justify why they are like that.

Scapegoat as you say.

I posed this question in a similar forum and haven't gotten an answer from anyone yet:

If you and you alone pick what belief you want to have, how can you discern whether it is the right or the wrong one?

They seem to think they can do it all on there own and don't seem to realize that some sort of guide such as a spiritual one is needed to help answer these question. The 'I can do it alone' never works, everyone needs help or a guide, just like we do.

That's true.

We all need to be open to spiritual guidance from a higher source.