Originally posted by Paul_Richard

3. The Bible, which was fragmented and incomplete in spiritual and metaphysical understanding in the first place, was further twisted and edited for content - with many omissions - by common men and power hungry rulers over the centuries.

Even if you ignore all the spiritual truth presented here by my friends, this is one fact you can't ignore - The Bible (and other holy books) and religion, have been and currently are used to control people to their detriment, physically and spiritually.

I have no wish to change anyones mind. There has been a lot of useful information provided, it's really up to the individual to decide. Don't thump your bibles near me, but if you really want to be a part of the deceptive collective, go for it. I'm very happy to know the truth of the situation, and I'm sure we'll be opposing each other some day discarnately.
So, see you in the future.

Originally posted by MrDead

Even if you ignore all the spiritual truth presented here by my friends, this is one fact you can't ignore - The Bible (and other holy books) and religion, have been and currently are used to control people to their detriment, physically and spiritually.

but if you really want to be a part of the deceptive collective, go for it. I'm very happy to know the truth of the situation

How do you know you are not controlled, through classic deception techniques, like you have had a game painted into your very mind, that becomes a BELIEF TRAP?.

[edit on 16-5-2008 by Jn]

MrDead – Nice to see you and thanks for chiming in.

Now that I have overcome some minor PC-posting problems, I'd like to respond to Jn’s accusation at length.

Originally posted by Jn
The thing is you dont understand the truths written in the Bible.

You and your friends are still decieved.

I see that you are new to ATS, at least in posting.

You are addressing FOUR Solist Mystics and spiritual mediums in here. There are others in our fellowship. As mystics, we seek (and get) illumination and revelation directly from the Other Side, without going through a minister, priest, rabbi, or clergy person of any kind.

We see through the deceptive astral influences that empower the world's traditional religions and we converse with spirits constantly.

All of us have had situations whereby we have been visited by the yellow and orange-energy spirits representative of Christianity who further the Jesus god-icon. Those yellow and orange spirits have proven themselves many times to be abusive, manipulative, and deceptive.

In contrast, we find that the sky blue and white spirits – the discarnate Saints - to be helpful and supportive of us, and to provide spiritual insight. They do not promote a god-icon that is actually representative of Group Entity energies. In other words, they are not out to DECEIVE.

So given the same situation, who would you choose as the better option for spiritual guidance and metaphysical understanding?

There's more...

We have developed a high degree of spiritual purity, beyond even that of the Saints on the seventh plane that we channel.

This allows us a certain degree of discriminatory ability in discerning the purity of spirits or discarnates.

We have found that the spiritual purity of discarnate Saints, in addition to their Dominant Aura Colors, is superior to that of angels (basically spiritual discarnates) and subangels (common spirits).

So when yellow and orange spirits appear to us in their Group Entities (discarnate communities), we can detect them not only from their Dominant Aura Color, but also from their less then pure - lusty - presence.

That's right.

Angels have a slightly lusty energy when compared to the energies of discarnate Saints, who are purer and nobler in spiritual presence.

In other words, to us, angels and especially subangels astrally stink.

So we have a number of ways which has led us to the determination that the religions and spiritual-metaphysical understanding of angels on the fourth plane and subangels or common spirits on the third plane are in fact inferior to the spiritual awareness and overall metaphysical foundation of those on the sixth and seventh planes:

1. The energy and presence of angels is obviously and repeatedly not as pure as that of discarnate Saints.

2. Angels and subangels in Group Entities (yellow and orange energies respectively) have astrally abused us, directly and indirectly. We have shared our experiences with one another and have all gone through this many times.

3. The energies of discarnate Saints (sky blue and white) are supportive of us and provide us with spiritual insight. We get visions, feelings, impressions, and messages from them on a daily basis.

We thereby conclude that the Bible represents a religion that was inspired by angels, not by Saints and not by The Original Creator who used The Light to orchestrate The Big Bang. Jesus was not a Saint or a lesser god, only an angel prophet. That is why the Bible is so fragmented, why Jesus is compassion and spiritual responsibility-challenged, why he never came back and never will, why there are ministers, priests and nuns – who preach in his name no less - who sexually molest and in some cases RAPE thousands of innocent children around the world, why the miracles of Christianity have lessened over the years, and why Christianity as a whole is weakening in membership all over the world.

On the Other Side, Group Entities and spirits in general can fool many people in the flesh but they cannot hide their Dominant Aura Color - that which reflects their spiritual evolution - in The Light.

So it is really a simple choice for us.

Do we go with the yellow-energy angels and common spirits (orange and red) who abuse us and who are obviously spiritually inferior?

Or do we go with the discarnate Saints who have shown us time and time again that they are worthy of our trust, faith, and spiritual affiliation?

No, it is not us who are being deceived here - it is YOU - and all those like you who allow the yellow-orange energy of inferior spirits to manipulate and deceive you into believing in a FALSE GOD that they promote for their own glory

Another problem is that angels are too spiritually underdeveloped and thereby weak in The Light in order to amend ANY of the major ills of society.

We prefer to evolve into becoming our own gods through The Original Creator’s approach of Heart Chakra Radiance instead of being the lackeys of a FALSE GOD. So after death we can Ascend in The Light to our respective Godhead; while the angels and common spirits, temporarily in their primitive astral communities (before they fall apart through retrogression), can whine and bite their teeth in frustration from true Ascended Masters having emerged in the Light that will invariably lead to superseding ALL THE FALSE GOD HIERARCHIES that are powered and empowered by Group Entities in the Mid and Lower Realms of Spirit.

The discarnate Saints in the Higher Realms are helping us do precisely that.



[edit on 16-5-2008 by Paul_Richard]

We wait. We don't go anywhere straight away. There is an adjustment period...We are told we have to wait for Judgement day....the only judge is yourself .......you have to forgive yourself in order to be forgiven.
You will be assigned to the appropriate space and time/dimension/level as your actions while alive on earth deemed suitable.
Its a realisation on another level. many believe you die, thats it, nothing else...i ask this...how do they know? in that case how do i know what i have just written to be true?...it'smy belief of years of research into what happens when ther final organ stops its working.
no one can either prove or dissprove this one.
You go to where you belong. what you feel what you need. Nothing of the material world matters in that sense....

septembersun

Hey Arthur, i just want to add to the "Love is all there is" statement.

Along with Love, there is also humility, Purity, and compassion.

Now, when i say love, i do not mean an empty word like so many in this world use. I mean love that bursts out through your heart, the love you feel, and not just say.

Compassion,It is my personal opinion(and other Solists may disagree) that compassion is just as important as love, if not more. You feel it in your heart, just as you do with love.

For example, many of you watched the 911 tapes, the towers going down, and the people in the streets crying, i do not know about you, but i felt their sadness in my heart. Overwhelming emotion filled up in me. It has nothing to do with nationalism(as i am Canadian) and everything to do with being a human being.

Humility is being selfless, and looking out for others. That is another important facet in being spiritual, for it is my opinion, one is not a spiritual person if he is not looking out for the person next to him.

Purity is to have a truly loving sexual relationship, that is not based on lust. We Solists believe that lust is a very big thing that contributes to spiritual retrogression.

Anyways, just wanted to add to love what we Solists hold dearly.

[edit on 16-5-2008 by darcon]

Originally posted by MrDead
So with that bit of background, to directly answer to your question, "How do you know you are not controlled, through classic deception techniques, like you have had a game painted into your very mind, that becomes a BELIEF TRAP?."

I have experienced things first hand. I am sorry to admit it now, but I entered into it with a healthy dose of skepticism and that was countered by overwhelming personal proofs.

If i describe what you said in the way you can gain someones trust, like for example my last few posts, talking about using thinking in a way to excel (albeit can be a slow and lonely path at times), and so i am doing the same trying to gain trust, for a example.

Then what happened to you is basically a technique to gain someones trust what you describe there, you where down or they made you down and then they showed you miracles, and thus they have gained/taken your trust.

It is a simple but effective technique, when explained in the framework of techniques.