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Originally posted by VIKINGANT
When we die do we go straight to heaven at the moment of death or do wait until Christs second coming and the resurrection?
According to Luke 23:43
“Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
That higher awareness was inspired by discarnate Saints.
Originally posted by pause4thought
...or demons. The only way to be sure is to check what they said with the Bible.
Once again, you have no cogent argument and/or evidence...
...to support your twisted, biased, and closed-minded position.
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Originally posted by AshleyD
(although everyone else will see it and assume the other person couldn't answer your argument). You are guaranteed the last word every single time, in other words. That's pretty cool.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
3. The Bible, which was fragmented and incomplete in spiritual and metaphysical understanding in the first place, was further twisted and edited for content - with many omissions - by common men and power hungry rulers over the centuries.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
3. The Bible, which was fragmented and incomplete in spiritual and metaphysical understanding in the first place, was further twisted and edited for content - with many omissions - by common men and power hungry rulers over the centuries.
Originally posted by doctorex
Why people always say that, when the textual evidence says quite the opposite, never ceases to amaze me. You do realise we have copies of these texts that are nearly two thousand years old don't you, and they're still the same?
Originally posted by doctorex
We even have a copy of the Isaiah scroll that dates to around 100 BC, and guess what? no twists, edits, and ommisions by common men and power hungry rulers over the centuries
Originally posted by VIKINGANT
Thanks guys this has been very interesting and enlightening but unfortunately I did not ask if the bible was accurate or how much (if any)was missing although it does come into play whenever discussing the bible we can only really work with what we do have.
Originally posted by VIKINGANT
I hate to say lets get back on track with my tendency to get side tracked and sometimes it is necessary to make a point, but its better that I say it before a mod does.
That is all. Please continue....
Originally posted by doctorex
Yes I know all about the Apocryphal books and sure there may be debate over what books to include and what not to include, but the books themselves have not been edited or tampered with over the centuries, have they? If I pick up a Bible and read it, has what I read been twisted or edited?
Originally posted by doctorex
Besides, as for the debate over what books to include, do you realise that even thoughs who never even followed the God of Israel have been the tools of God's hand to fullfill his purpose, without them even realising it? Look at the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Philistines, they were all used by God at one stage or another, even if it were simply to test or punnish.
Originally posted by doctorex
Still, you just seem to be on a mission to belittle and slag of Christians, while trying to give the impression that you're so much more spiritualy enlightened. Well you're not doing a very good job, no matter what you might care to believe.