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Originally posted by Howie47
reply to post by VIKINGANT
The saved since Jesus' resurrection go straight to a place referred to as heaven. Before Jesus resurrection, they went to paradise. All those in paradise were resurrected with Jesus and are now in heaven.
Hope that clears it up sufficiently for you.
Originally posted by darkelf
This is a question I have been pondering. I was taught that we go directly to heaven or hell when we die. But I have recently been doing alot of research in the scriptures on this. The parable of Lazareth and the rich man suggest we are conscious after death, but other verses suggest that we sleep until the ressurection. Either way I'm ok with it.
When we die do we go straight to heaven at the moment of death or do wait until Christs second coming and the resurrection?
Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in Me, even if he dies, will live. Everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die - ever. Do you believe this?"
(etc.)
...we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep... Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
Look! The Lord comes with thousands of His holy ones...
The choices we make in life matters deeply.
Life is a golden opportunity to live a spiritual life in a world of darkness.
Life is very important because how we have lived our life largely determines how far we can go into the light.
Before the universe was created, every soul that ever existed and will exist, including Jesus, was created by God.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
All things were created through Him, and apart from Him not one thing was created that has been created
The Word became flesh and took up residence among us
The so-called "trinity" that Christians talk about (i.e., Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)...
The Biblical references to the title of "Christ" (the anointed one) is a reference to the divine consciousness within human beings. In this respect, it can be said that Jesus and Buddha became Christs because they were a manifestation of the divine nature in humanity.
Originally posted by pause4thought
No, my dear friend, purgatory is nowhere mentioned in the Bible.
Originally posted by pause4thought
Can we perhaps agree to disagree, but agree on this: whether our ultimate destiny is Heaven or Hell is what really matters?
Maccabees is extra-testamental.)
Originally posted by pause4thought
Hi. I think it is only fair to point out that the website you linked to is strongly biased away from the Christian faith. Fair enough my friend - you describe yourself as an ancient mystic!
Originally posted by pause4thought
However mysticism equates to an entirely different world-view to the Christian faith.
Originally posted by pause4thought
The latter is a rational response to records of historical events and a belief that there is but one true God, who is the Maker of this universe (and much else besides), and who is not only well able to find a way to communicate with us - He did it in a very special way over thousands of years through a great variety of people. As you know, we believe His last specially revealed messages to mankind were given in the days that His Son was in the world, and during the immediate aftermath.
Originally posted by pause4thought
The website in question is full of statements that are the absolute converse of what God has revealed in the Bible.
Christian mysticism is what founded Christianity in the first place.
I agree with the Muslims that the prophet Issa/Jesus was a prophet. Well, actually an angel prophet.
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also
Originally posted by pause4thought
The website in question is full of statements that are the absolute converse of what God has revealed in the Bible.
What website?
Like Emperor Justinian for example, who ordered all references to the doctrine of reincarnation to be omitted from the Bible in the Sixth Century, under penalty of incarceration, torture, and death.
Most early Christians actually embraced the doctrine of reincarnation.
But because of Justinian, it pretty much ended in Christendom.
We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
O Timothy, guard what ha been entrusted you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called "knowledge", which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith.