CGI: discussion with Philipe Kling David, page 3
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reply posted on 11-5-2008 @ 06:30 PM by Philipe3d
5 - More than 90% of the comments of videos on You tube are people saying they dont believe, and this is 3d, and accusing me of create a fraud. (mostly idiots) accusing me of creating a fraud. I do not know if it is only a matter of language, but for what I understand, a fraud is an attempt to fool people with bad goals. If the report of a mib is a fraud, then sorry, George Lucas, as in Star Wars is much more alien! And sorry for Steven Spielberg also!
Sincerally, I'm not interested in what prosecutors believe the idiots or crazy to think. It is true that I am laughing in the back of them and all who feel fear or panic with the videos of the report of a MIB. For me what is obviously something digital, because I am habbituate with it. I wish I could make the videos even more real. But I NEVER lie on the origin of the material.
I was not educated to fool people. I believe that ufologic fraud, such as Ray Santilly roswell necropsy and this false astronaut's Mona Lisa EBE are the worst and most vile thing that anyone can do.
I LOVE ufology research and the study it since I was children. And I also like to write fictional stories. I don´t see these two passions as antagonistic things. The Internet is really full of idiots and because of them, I thought not to continue with the report after bad experience with Part 1, which was published as fiction, and republished with crop parts like reality.
If my goal was to get fame, appears, I would not of community in community to deny everything and take the authors of the material.
When I decided to continue the story, 9 months after starting, it is because I believe that I can not let idiots prevent intelligent people to read a good story.

6 - I am not guilty by a few people have the Agent Mulder syndrome. "I want to believe"
Ufology is not a religion for me. I hate people of WANT TO BELIEVE. I prefer the people of need to know more first to obtain an explanation about something strange. Indeed, this type of product is just a kind of bitter medicine, which explains this SERIOUS problem that ifects the ufology in world. You do not do serious research into believing anything. Quite the contrary. The true when researchers are faced with something like this will immediately see the link that exists at the beginning and end of videos and come into contact me, as many have done. And I speak the truth, as I am speaking simce from the start. I created all that. It is a product of imagination. Nothing more.

7 - Ask a stripe in videos with any kind of warning did not prevent people duplicate the video cutting off the warning and continue to deceive the unwary. There are countless replicas of the original video has spread across the network. If I am running behind each of those people who took my video and placed in duplicate as you tube, I will do anything more in my life, just search duplicates to take off from internet.

8 - And for those who still have some doubt whether I want to appear with two little vids, think about it: If I wanted, I would not say that it is a creating. I would claim that is real. Also, I sell the vids to a channel of TV (and I have many friends on TV networks in Brazil and international media). Also, I write the story in English and not in Portuguese. If I wrote in Portuguese, is because it is not envisaged that happen so much confusion about history. And if I did not anticipate, because it would not appear with it. I do not want to become famous. But I want to see my work and I recognized that people have unusual sensory experiences with the reading of my story. It is just a hard work of only 1 man. And without any money. I do not know how far this can lead. The fact is that I have received real threats on the phone because this material. Another evidence that shows that many people have not been able to separate facts from the fictional reality.


reply posted on 11-5-2008 @ 06:32 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by Inceptor



The problem with Golem is that people know that it does not exist.

What about these two images from Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991).


Does that look real enough for you?

Edited to add: as previously said, it's just a question of time and money.

[edit on 11/5/2008 by ArMaP]



reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 08:07 PM by internos
reply to post by NephraTari



No.
He won't.
Because he does not need to prove anything.
But hey, feel free to believe that it's the real deal.



reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 08:59 PM by NephraTari
Originally posted by internos
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post by NephraTari



No.
He won't.
Because he does not need to prove anything.
But hey, feel free to believe that it's the real deal.

I thought this was a thread about the cgi and discussion?

are we not supposed to pose questions here?



reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 05:19 PM by NephraTari
reply to post by internos



I don't believe that was implied anywhere. I don't see how asking about what his inspiration for the model was would do that.. or even some of the early work.

this is some very impressive work. on par with what you would expect to see in a major motion picture. I am used to being able to see this sort of stuff on the DVD extras you know

They always have a "the making of" type of feature that gives some artist insight.


reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 10:48 PM by Philipe3d
Hi. I am not sure exactly what you want to see. Concept arts? How to´s?

The gray dasign is just based in Apha tipology. Like we all know, the alpha tipology is the most common decribed morphologic apparence in many fields of ufo cases. Like a person intrsted in ufology, I prefer to adopt the classical gray tipology because this for is easy to recongise like not-human form. And also many cases relating this form tend to offer a more accepting illusion of reality.
In ufo database there are many strange and bizarre aliens, like the ones of sacred family case (big cyclops wearing channel blonde wigs at 60 ´s in Brazil) But like you can imagine, there are something disbelievness in aliens like that...
So, it make a gray form more acceptable.
Like I explain before, the idea is not to fake anything, but offer an intresting and intriguing story based in real -or not so real at sceptic point of view - info about aliens. In this way, I dont create any type of concept art or construction plans. I simple star to modelling it and do the job. The people are very intrested in images and videos, but 90% of my effort is in story. The vids and photos is only proposed to illustrate it.
But due the intrest, I am thinking to start to explore more possibilities in this field.
in my story, soon I will enter in a (real) secret area military base. I pretend to film there (this part is not fiction. I really will penetrate inside a military base without permission and i will film there). I hope to stay alive to put an CGI alien there after this adventure. Many of my friends and my wife is worried with this bizarre idea, but I need to confess: I cant resist to put a more realism in this story. If i don´t be arrested, I hope to obtain a very good video to illustrate the story. But if the military guards arrest me in this try, there a big part of story created, and my arresting will be part of it. A friend will post it if I disappear.
Like I am not a fool or cmpletly crazy (just 80%) I have some knowledge of who can help me if I find a big trouble. But due the realism restrictions, I plan to invade the base without any help of military person.
Stay Tuned. If I disappear, you now what happen.
I just pray to soldiers have sense of humor...


reply posted on 3-6-2008 @ 09:45 AM by NephraTari

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