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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 09:24 AM by grover
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Sadly the real culprits are the neocons who took over his administration who pushed the war based on their ideological assumptions and not the
facts.
I just finished Craig Unger's "The Fall of the House of Bush" and he goes into the whole sorry story in detail... Its not (no matter how I dislike
him) his fault that he is a simplton and way in over his head from the getgo.
If anything the ones who should be hauled before the courts and the whole neocon apparatus from cheney the dick on down.
bush minor if anything was a willing patsy.
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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:24 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by grover
If anything the ones who should be hauled before the courts and the whole neocon apparatus from cheney the dick on down. 
Cheney really has run the last 8 years. However, he won't be brought up on charges or tried. I'm sure of it. Once he's out of office no one in
politics would bother with him. He's used up and they want whatever will move them through their political career the fastest.
Going after Cheney would just slow them down.
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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 12:57 PM by TeslaandLyne
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
Indeed. Absolutely no evidence that Bush benefited from lying to the public he's supposed to serve. None at all. He's actually the greatest leader
of the 21st century because you can't misunderestimate his ability to unmislead the masses. His uppance will come.
Now I must go and rearrange my collection of tinned foil hats that I acquired from a travelling merchant from Tuscany and a bumbling lovable orphan
from Finland called Juho.
Paraguay is supposed to be quite nice in the spring. 
Perhaps he is being held hostage by the Illuminati or the ET (for the tin foil
crowd) and has to go with the flow.
The 911 investigation involvement and Nazi backing history have been
BIG TIME on the web for years.
If all that bounces off the Illuminati like bullets off superman there
is no hope of even the slightest threat to Bush being accused of
anything.
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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 07:46 PM by Gun Totin Gerbil
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Maybe the Iranians will get him..
Iran announces that it may press charges against the United States and Britain over their involvement in a deadly blast in Shiraz.
Following investigations into an explosion last month at a religious center in the southern city of Shiraz, Iran announced Thursday that it had
arrested six people in connection with the incident.
Iran's Intelligence Minister Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei said on Thursday that the terrorist group had plans to carry out similar attacks in other
cities.
Iran's judiciary spokesman, Alireza Jamshidi, confirmed on Monday that the American and British governments had been involved in the fatal
incident.
www.presstv.com...
[edit on 12-5-2008 by Gun Totin Gerbil]
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reply posted on 12-5-2008 @ 08:02 PM by Solarskye
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Like I've said to many times. Slaves will be slaves until they do not want to be slaves no more. It's up to the people. The sad thing is that the
people are scared and fear enslaves their ability to say F @@K IT! and take a stand. " But what if I lose my job? " or what about the military
force?, where will I go?, what can I do?, I'm so scared! To many people have been programmed to keep their jobs and to pay the elite. I long for
the day when people don't care if they die because they know their fellow citizen is right behind them and another behind him and another behind her
and they will not stop until the fear is defeated and the people take charge of their country. For some reason I sound like a novel instead of what
should happen.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 12:12 AM by Sneerglaw_II
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Seeing as I'm posting here i know im fighting an uphill battle.......but here it goes.
IF Bush lied about Iraq, why didnt Congress figure it out? They read the same documents he did and voted to go to war! One being a female running
for president, go figure! But she never read the reports, only a handful of senators actually did. Doesnt say much about them(both Left and Right).
So dont put the blame in the hands of our President, put the blame in the hands of the government as a whole, since they missed it also(Now that is IF
he lied, but seeing as how 22 other countries came up with the same intel we did, I highly doubt it was a lie).
And why did it take more than a dozen UN resolutions before anyone did anything about Iraq? If anything we(US) were keeping our part of the
bargain with Iraq. Resolutions which infact were given when Clinton was in office. Resolutions about WMD's, but Saddam wouldnt abide by them.
I say we were enforcing what no one else in the UN would(Food for Oil scandel anyone???)
IF he lied about it, why? It certainly wasnt for oil. And if it was wouldnt he go for a more oil rich country(sorry to say that Iraq doesnt hold
the 2nd most oil reserves)? Why are the gas prices going up in the United States? Bush isnt getting it. Every penny can be accounted for for the
prices of gas. Cheney(sp?) maybe, but bush no.
AND Saddam DID have WMD's!!! Yeah I said it fellas, sorry to bust your bubble. He's used them on the Kurds! Why dont you seem to remember that?
Also, the war in Iraq ended years ago. We are no longer fighting Iraq! I hope you all realize that. But it seems that most of you dont. We're
fighting Terrorists, yes terrorist. Now if they happen to be Iraq citizens, that doesnt mean we're fighting Iraq still.
So anyone wanting to pull out of Iraq now is supporting terrorism. Now before you flame me all to hell......I really want you to think about it for
a day or so. Really think about it. Anyone willing to blowthemselves up to kill American troops/civilians is a T.E.R.R.O.R.I.S.T. regardless of
where they're doing it.
You people seem to blame everything that happens in this country on Bush, because thats soemone you can point the finger at and say, "well hes our
leader, he controls everything so it must be his fault!". Well it doesnt work that way, i wish it was that simple guys, but it cant be.
You wonder why your gas prices is going up? You wonder why food prices is going up? You wonder why the economy is in a slump? There is only one
place to look for the answers to those questions, "Global Warming".
But thats another topic for another time. Stop trying to blame Bush for everything you dont like about your country and yourself, and start loving
your country for those very reasons, because this is one of the few countries where you can talk the way you are talking here. Freedom is one thing
you take for granted when you never have to fight for it.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 12:20 AM by ppskylight
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Originally posted by voodoomaster2008
Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi's killed, millions displaced---ALL BASED ON LIES.
[edit on 9-5-2008 by DimensionalDetective] 
Great post, just wanted to add that its in the hundreds of thousands, probably even closing in on a million. Last time I heard the stats the death
toll was hovering around 640,000 killed civilians. That was quite a while ago so I'm sure its increased dramatically. We have a word for this, its
called genocide. 
You forget most of the civilian deaths in Iraq are sectarian related murders, skirmishes, carbombs, suicide bombs..The fact is that its Sunni's and
Shi'ite's killing eachother..You can call it genocide, I call it a small civil war that resulted from longlasting tensions between the former ruling
class Sunni's, and the Shi'ites who had little to fear from the Sunni minority once Saddam's brutal dictatorship was dealt with.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:50 AM by grover
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No they did not... they were given briefings by administration spokesmen and saw only the "intel" that they wanted them to see.
So no they did not read the same documents the White House did.
BTW that is throughly documented in and of itself.
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 10:58 AM by thefreepatriot
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Sad, you still think this is about democrats and republicans?
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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 04:32 PM by SHADOW WALKER
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reply to post by tankthinker Don"t Ever Underestimate The "True"
Patriots Of This Great Country. .Bush, Chaney , Rove ,Rumsfeld, Kissinger , And The Whole Bush Criminal Family WILL Be Served Their Punishment For The
CRIMES That They Have Committed Believe Me ! These Traitors Will Not Go Unpunished .The Stage's Are Being Set In Motion For It To Happen . They Can
Run But They Cant Hide . It Just Takes Organization And The Commitment To RIGHT THE WRONGS .And The Brass Cajones To GET IT DONE !!
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reply posted on 14-5-2008 @ 12:43 PM by antmax21
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The Media is the Government's cattle....
America needs to look past them and all the lies we are fed.
Down with this horrible Administration of criminals.
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 03:05 PM by corstar
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Give them their trial and hang them till they are dead, dead, dead.
Society needs a clean house once in a while. Lets start by cutting a few tall poppies.
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