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Originally posted by CzErased
ron paul and the illuminati [or masonic] hand shake.
Freemasonry is basically a continuation of the mystery religions (esoterism), albeit quite watered down in modern lodges, especially at the lower levels . Before the masons there was Rosicrusianism, and before that - the Knights Templar.
Greetings RP fans, I am so glad to see this thread on this subject, because when I first tried to research this myself a few weeks back, I didn't see anyone anywhere discussing it.
And yes I am a newbie, but not a troll, as I have been reading here off and on for a few weeks, and getting the Paulunteer daily.
Nobody wants to love Ron Paul more than I do, since I have spent practically night and day for six weeks now reading/watching everything I can about him, since the 1st money bomb on 11/5/07 -- and loving it, including the enormous enthusiasm and creativity of all the RP supporters. Little geniuses running around everywhere it seems, from blimps to tea parties, etc. Awesome. ;-) I am ecstatic over that blimp!
HOWEVER, because I have also spent the last five years studying the global CONSPIRACY -- yes, CONSPIRACY (why else did the media lackeys bald-face lie about the Superhighway, etc. and mock RP for mentioning it, etc.?) -- it is impossible to dismiss what is hard reality, as FDR said,
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
(And HE should know, since HE was a high-ranking Mason, as was Reagan "grafted in" straight to the top echelons, to the 33rd degree within weeks after his inauguration). You don't get to know the inside agenda of Judeo-Masonic Luciferianism unless you are 30th degree and up:
"That which we must say to the crowd is:* 'We worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition.'* To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General [a 33rd Degree Mason], we say this ... you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th Degrees ... The Masonic religion should be, by all of the initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine ... Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God ... the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light, God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil." [Lady Queenborough, Occult Theocracy, p. 220-221, quoting a letter from Albert Pike to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World on July 14, 1889]
That book is online, btw.
I'm not as concerned about the supposed "fraternity hand sign" (or the UT hand-sign, or the "devil's hand sign," whichever) -- even though I absolutely do NOT think it is a "natural way" to let one's "fingers fall," no way would I be convinced of that (I TRIED numerous times to make my fingers just "fall into place" like that, naturally, and it doesn't work. Your brain has to TELL your hand to do it that way, so c'mon people, really.)
But I am much more concerned re: the Masonic connection, if there is one, as these photos of Ron Paul doing Masonic Handshakes are clearly highly suspect. These photos are on several sites on the net, some in zip files, but here is one link where it is all there on one page already: www.thebereanchronicles.com...
The "hard reality" I was referring to above is the Dialetic process, creating both sides of the "struggle" so there comes from it the "desired result." I would imagine most everyone already knows about all that already. So what might the elite "desired result" be in this case? Oh, maybe a bloody revolution to get rid of a boatload of "dissenters" all in one fell swoop, for starters, which would fit nicely with the Masonic motto, Ordo Ab Chao, Order out of Chaos:
Masonic mottoes [mottos] freemasonry.bcy.ca...
"In imitation of the sentences appended to the Coats of Arms and seals of the Gilds and other societies, the Freemasons have for different branches of their Order mottoes, which are placed on their banners or put at the head of their documents, which are expressive of the character and design, either of the whole Order or of the particular branch to which the motto belongs." [Mackey’s Encyclopedia, p. 684] :
[year] 1395 Ancient Craft Masonry: Ordo ab Chao Order out of Chaos
So let's hope RP is either:
a) Not a Mason (but I hope he would please explain the handshakes, AND the supposed "fraternity" hand-sign);
b) Or that if he is a Mason, he is only at the 3rd degree Blue Lodge level (highly doubtful due to his age and stature), in which case he wouldn't know a whole lot of the "inside agenda" of the Lodge connection to the global agenda, as he wouldn't be "groomed" yet to that end if he was just a "low-level" Mason.
"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple.* Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations.* It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understand them."* [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 819]
"We must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree (30th and above), whom we shall select.* With regards to our brothers in Masonry, these men must be pledged to the strictest secrecy.* Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international center, the more powerful, because its direction will be unknown." [Letter, dated 1/22/1870, from Albert Pike to the Head of the Order of the Illuminati, Guiseppe Mazzini]
I also thought it was interesting in the wiki info that a person named Lewandowski was Ron's "big brother" in the fraternity. Would that be a Polish or Jewish name? (sincerely, I don't know). FWIW, Freemasonry's origins are in Kabbalistic Judaism:
"Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end." (Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, a major pioneer of Reform Judaism in America, 1855)
"Freemasonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?" (The Jewish Tribune, editorial, 1927)
The above two quotes from: watch.pair.com...
"Freemasonry is a search for Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 741, Pike was a 33rd Degree Mason, Head of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, Southern Jurisdiction].
"All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it; everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of the Illuminati ... all the Masonic associations owe to it [the Kabalah] their Secrets and their symbols." [Pike, Morals and Dogma ]
"To conceive of God ... the Kabala imagined Him to be a 'most occult light'." [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 740]
So, yes, it's a grievous thought that the good doctor might also be "one of them," ie, intertwined in those dreadful secret societies. It's a concern that I have tried to "push to the back of my mind" for weeks because I was having too much fun watching all the videos and reading all the inspiring and hopeful comments by soooo many people. Who doesn't want to hope that RP is the REAL THING with NO unsavory connections whatsoever?
We all do, of course. So it's been my prayer and hope that I would eventually see/hear/read some concrete "proof" straight from the Doc himself -- the preferable method being that someone with a video camera and opportunity would just ask Ron Paul face-to-face: "Dr. Paul, we must know, ARE YOU A MASON, sir? If so, WHAT DEGREE?"
Because RP is known for his honesty and integrity, I'm "assuming" he would give a truthful answer. But then again, if he IS a high-level Mason, he has already taken an oath of secrecy, which I doubt he would break (on threat of death they take these "blood oaths") which is why I say a video would be good, I want to SEE how he answers the question...
"We must create a super rite, which will remain UNKNOWN, to which we will call those Masons of HIGH DEGREE (30th and above), whom WE shall SELECT.* With regards to our brothers in Masonry, THESE MEN MUST BE PLEDGED TO THE STRICTEST SECRECY. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international center, the more powerful, because its direction will be UNKNOWN." [Letter, dated 1/22/1870, from Albert Pike to the Head of the Order of the Illuminati, Guiseppe Mazzini]
I forgot to include this link re: my 1st post further above. It's a website of "ex-Masons for Jesus" and they have a page of drawings of some of the Masonic signals and handshakes: www.ephesians5-11.org... :
GRIP OF AN ENTERED APPRENTICE
PASS GRIP OF A FELLOW CRAFT
REAL GRIP OF A FELLOW CRAFT
PASS GRIP OF A MASTER MASON
Compare some of those to the three still photos of Ron Paul shaking hands at that link (you have to scroll down the page for the "still" handshaking photos): www.thebereanchronicles.com...
When my sister was down a few weeks ago we tried "shaking hands" several times to see how a "natural" handshake is vs. these where you bend your thumb into the knuckle of the other person, which is NOT natural, as you, again, have to "force" your hand to do it that way.
Nice checkerboard flooring inside Masonic Temples/Lodges as well. It is symbolic of the occult Kabbalistic balance between black and white which occult Freemasonry loves. Of course this directly contradicts the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ: "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me, walketh not in darkness, but shall have the light of life."
This balance is seen in other occult symbols like the black and white of the yin and the yang.
“The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are [sic] displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry … It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain.."
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The Temple Apron is a symbol of Satan(Lucifer) power and priest-hood(religion).
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Quit using Ron Paul as a forum for your bigotted beliefs. You don't know anything about him or his ideals obviously. You also know nothing about the Freemason or Eastern Star organizations.
1. Ron Paul's father was a Freemason and Dr. Paul has said himself many times that he respects the organization and has been to many of the open meetings in his district. I should know, I was his scheduler for ten years.
2. His wife, Carol is a member of the Velasco Order of the Eastern Star and maintains her membership in the Freeport area lodge.
3. Their daughters, Lori and Joy, were both Rainbow girls, another organization associated with Freemasonry.
Your hatefilled retoric regarding a benevolent, Biblically based organization is likened to those who have a fear of the unknown. It spawns lies and hate toward those who are innocent and have done good for others. Just try taking your child to the Shriner's burn or crippled childrens hospital. They will take care of your child regardless of your ignorance and will do it free of charge. How many people has your paranoia helped?
“It’s money out of thin air. It’s the secrecy of it all that’s so bad. The ownership is by members of all the banks. It is something Congress created. The first central/national bank was created by Alexander Hamilton and Jefferson got rid of it, the second one was gotten rid of by Andrew Jackson, and I’m just looking forward to being the president that gets rid of the third national bank.” -Congressman Dr. Ron Paul, Presidential campaign speech in New Hampshire, Jan. 6th, 2008