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U.S. Urged: 'Fight Terror On Web'

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posted on May, 8 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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U.S. Urged: 'Fight Terror On Web'


www.courant.com

A draft of the staff-generated report obtained by The Courant says that "radicalization is no longer confined to training camps in Afghanistan or other locations far from our shores; it is also occurring right here in the United States." The homeland security committee, led by Sen. Joseph Lieberman, has investigated "the threat of homegrown terrorism" in several hearings since last year.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on May, 8 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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Ahh, more "homegrown terrorism" and "violent radicalization" fear-mongering and desperation of total control by war-monger extraordinaire, Joe Lieberman...Not too hard to see where this is going. He tosses out Islamic extremism numerous times, but make no mistake, this is designed to target WAY beyond that...


The report details four stages of developing a vulnerable person into a terrorist, as taught by New York Police Department specialists. "Left unchallenged, it is very possible that the core terrorist enlistment message espoused over the Internet will drive more individuals in the United States all the way through the four stages of the radicalization process," it says.

According to the report, new laws should be considered "to prevent the spread of the ideology." And those looking for solutions need to act "quickly and aggressively."

The report concludes: "The safety of the American people depends on it."




www.courant.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 8-5-2008 by DimensionalDetective]



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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For some reason I just got this sinking feeling in my gut telling me that it won't be long before I can no longer respond to threads like these.

They will probably start saying that ATS is a breeding ground for "terrorists". They will say that the ideology being spread around this website is dangerous and a threat to Amerika.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 03:14 PM
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You know, I was just browsing the web the other day and I was astonished at how much terrorist recruitment and indoctrination is going on.

People are gullible enough to believe that terrorist would expose themselves and their organizations, who's very existence depends on seclusion and concealment, on the world-wide web?!!

Try Googling it if you dare. You'll find nothing.

This is the most ham-handed crap you can imagine. Oh yeah, terrorist camps advertising on the web. Come one come all! Get a free latte with every suicide bombing.

If they REALLY wanted to catch these people on the internet they would shut up and do it. It's not like you can hide anything here. This is about controlling the dissemination of information which threatens their authority. They never say it, but I would certainly bet it is in their agenda : dissent = terrorism.

I challenge anyone here in the US to actually identify one of these so-called "core terrorist enlistment" activities, I bet you the closest you'll get is nowhere near Islamist in nature.

By the way..., did anyone else catch the reference to the "the four stages of the radicalization process."? Nicely couched phraseology there. Could we all be feeble little 'vulnerable' personalities? If you want to see vulnerable personalities check the Fox news staff.



[edit on 8-5-2008 by Maxmars]



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective


According to the report, new laws should be considered "to prevent the spread of the ideology."


These words should never, ever, EVER be spoken by ANY person in the United States Government. This very concept is in direct opposition to the Constitutional guarantee of Free Speech.

Exactly whose ideology are they trying to stifle? Muslims? Constitutionalists? Liberals? Anyone who doesn't agree with endless war and predatory capitalism?

LIE-berman needs to get his head out of his ass.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 10:58 PM
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That was the sentence that really stuck out in my mind as well nighthawk...Couple this crap with the "homegrown terrorism" bills on the table, and you have a potential manifesto for the perfect fascist police state, where ANY type of negativity or dissent towards these maniacs policies can be determined BY THEM to be a "terrorist act". If this goes through, get ready to see any type of dissent towards them or their continued pissing on the civilianry be dealt with by people being raided, their PC's being confiscated, and being tossed behind bars.

Surreal.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by The Nighthawk


These words should never, ever, EVER be spoken by ANY person in the United States Government. This very concept is in direct opposition to the Constitutional guarantee of Free Speech.



You are exactly correct sir!


Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The Constitution

It's amazing how circumventing the Constitution has become a new national pastime. I'm utterly appalled at the sheer audacity of the Constitutionally elected representatives for even considering this.



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 05:40 AM
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Anonther S & F, DD. Well said above, guys, and you all know damn well this will get twisted into meaning people like us will be targeted for simply speaking our minds against the policies and procedures of this Gov't of ours.

And thanks for the link, kelbtalfenek -- I've been meaning to read that over, from start to finish


[edit on 5/9/2008 by RabbitChaser]



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 08:45 AM
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Radicalization in the West - The Homegrown Threat

Found this report guys - released by some chaps associated with what would appear to be the NYPD. I wonder what the odd's are of them slapping Christian's in there instead of Muslim's.... heheh religion eh. The reason for killing people for 2000+ years. what a fantastic reason....


Stage 1.

Pre-Radicalization

Stage 2.

Self-Identification

Stage 3.

Indoctrination

Stage 4.

Jihadization


Here's the link for those that are interested...

click me



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by The Nighthawk


These words should never, ever, EVER be spoken by ANY person in the United States Government. This very concept is in direct opposition to the Constitutional guarantee of Free Speech.

Exactly whose ideology are they trying to stifle? Muslims? Constitutionalists? Liberals? Anyone who doesn't agree with endless war and predatory capitalism?



They don't want anyone who still is thinking outside the box. Thinking on their own. This is NOT ALLOWED!



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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The only way we can discuss issues of real importance being carried out by the new american Nazi party, is on the net. If it goes everyone will be isolated and very vulnerable.

Ive watched for weeks now, how the American people raise these issues, condemn and verbally threaten to arm themselves, kick ass and generally rebel against the authority that is slowly draining the very life blood that was free America. It saddens me, worries me and Im starting to think that far from being an evenue of communication and brotherhood, ATS may only be a way of containing the frustrations felt. If I were the government I would rather people were venting in ATS than venting on mass on the streets of Americas cities.

Just my opinion, If it were Scotland that was being manipulated and having her free will sucked from her, beleive me, the Scottish people would be on the streets and in the parliament now !



posted on May, 9 2008 @ 10:53 AM
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I love how most of the guys pushing this bill probably don't even know what the internet is (series of tubes) and never use it. This just reeks of laying the ground work for further stripping people of their rights.

I also agree that sites like this will be in the cross hairs first. I have seen more calls for revolution here than anywhere else on the web. So, the people who are pushing the legislation must be concerned about places like this. Until I see websites like www.AlQeada.org popping up, I will have to assume that we are the ones they are referring to when they are talking about internet terrorist threats.



posted on May, 10 2008 @ 07:14 AM
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One of the PNAC's stated objectives for the 21st Century:


"CONTROL THE NEW “INTERNATIONAL COMMONS” OF SPACE AND “CYBERSPACE,”

www.newamericancentury.org...

What do you think they're doing people?
Fulfilling their wish list.

The same Republican, Chicken-hawk fascists who wrote up a long hit list of "principles" they'd like to achieve are now the same people in power, eroding civil liberties in the name of "security".

This campaign on the Internet is no surprise to me, the Bush Admin fears anything out of it's control that could be used against them to discredit their policies and spread the truth, so naturally they want to control the Internet as well.

They won't stop until we all have RFID chips up our asses and blindfolds tied around our heads, as we head off to "Dissident Camps".



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