NASA about to announce something Big?, page 6

reply to post by Myrdyn

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I agree with Riposte. The physical effects observed are simply attributed to the theoretical model called a black hole. However there are other theoretical/laboratory based models that produce very similar observable physical effects that have nothing to do with black hole type gravitationally based theory. Rather than admit this, mainstream cosmology is rooted and indeed can not remove itself from its gravitationally based paradigm, to the point where more suitable explanations are literally ignored. The masses of people mop up whatever Nasa and the scientific-academic establishment spew out, regardless of how accurate and reality based it is.

If they announce that they found a Black Hole (which they have announced lots of times), they are actually only announcing: "we have observed effects that are similar to the effects theorized within black hole theory." They could just as easily announce: "we have observed effects that are similar to the effects theorized within ALL THESE OTHER VALID theories." But that isn't going to happen, because Nasa is a mainstream Shill and propaganda head for the gravitationally based cosmological paradigm.

I am at once excited and skeptical.

It would be a wonderful thing if some secret of the universe has been located and either fills in some gap in an existing model or gives credence to some fringe model that will revolutionize the way we look at the universe and ourselves.

I also know that NASA is a bureaucracy that must always be pumping up its mission and announcing justifications for its existence and continued funding.

I am reminded of the extraterrestrial microbe found in a rock in Antarctica that turned out to be not much to write home about after all.

space.newscientist.com...

space.newscientist.com...

[edit on 2008/5/8 by GradyPhilpott]

reply to post by phaistonian

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I am very interestd in this,but i bet it's gonna be something lame

I hope it's something cool though so i'll be watching for sure.

reply to post by DuneKnight

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Depending on what you're scientifically interested in, it will either be interesting or not interesting

It will definitely be about either black holes, supernova, (any type of star). It won't be anything else. That is what the Chanda x-ray was designed for.

It will be a discovery in lieu of something that emits light or effects light in some form or another... hence x-"ray".

Originally posted by Myrdyn
By that logic you can't actually see anything. You can only see the light that is reflected from it. Light is a form of radiation - and that is how we see Black Holes. We observe the radiation produced by matter that is destroyed as it enters the event horizon of a Black Hole. Most of that radiation is in the X-ray frequency range.

Wrong again. You are not applying "my logic" correctly. You can't observe a black hole directly because it apparently sucks in all light, and as a matter of fact everything else, except when it's spitting them out. Yeah that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

Too bad that a black hole has never and never will be created in the lab.

www.holoscience.com...

No peculiar physics, strange matter or singularities (infinities) are involved in the plasma focus model of galactic centers. Black holes are not required. Matter in the vicinity of the galactic center is under the control of powerful electromagnetic forces. Gravitational calculations of stellar masses and motions in the galactic center are inappropriate and misleading. During the time that energy is being efficiently stored in the tiny central plasmoid, the galactic center is quiescent. Jets are only produced when the plasmoid becomes unstable. The periodic outbursts from a galactic plasmoid can briefly release more energy than all of the stars in the galaxy. Precisely the same effect is achieved in the high-energy plasma lab, like that at Los Alamos, where more instantaneous power than is available from all of the power stations on Earth can be released in a volume the size of a baked bean can.

I'm going to go with the documented and reproduceable effect that is produced in plasma labs all over the world to explain the galactic center, instead of a bunch of mathematical equations that break the known laws of physics.

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