Is "Webnet Global Communications" a legit company? If so their 3dh technology is amazing., page 1
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reply posted on 8-5-2008 @ 01:22 AM by Voxel
The 3d projection technology is licensed by them. I don't think they developed it or own it. They seem only interesting in selling it to consumers or integrating it with other verticals. How will this company find the capital to compete with the Sony's, Hitachi's, and every other television maker once this technology is widely licensed?

Then there is this:

WebNet Homeland Security
The Company has developed a strategy providing Broadband Wireless Mesh Technology for Homeland Security projects. Products include Facial Recognition Technology, Bomb and Explosive Detection, X-ray Screening and other “Classified” products.


Which is a pretty safe place to put your investments if you are into that kind of thing.

...BUT...

This company has been around for 3 years and has no real technology of their own but they perform metropolitan WiFi mesh installations in Canada. So far this business is their bread and butter. Everything else they have on the website are pie-in-the-sky business ideas.

In America, big companies such as Earthlink are running mesh operations in several cities and losing money doing so but maybe things are different in Canada.

Here, municipal wifi is a failure because the companies expect that people will pay as much as they do for DSL for very nebulous and variable wireless service. Then the companies refuse to even discuss the really important things with customers.

Like...
How fast is it during peak hours?
Does it still work when the power is out?
Is the latency low enough to use voip and gaming comfortably?

..so no one signs up.

On Earthlink's Troubles

Jon

EDITED TO ADD: When a company has "Seminars" my mind instantly screams SCAM.

Then I found this:
A limited number of Territory Licenses are available for Investors to acquire in each region we deploy. Each Licensee will stake their claim in this Trillion Dollar Industry.


From my point of view, this looks like a company that plans to sell as many licenses as it can to as many gullible investors as they can find before the whole house of cards collapses, declared bankruptcy, and the ex-CEO walks off to retire with his mansion and big yacht.

Wait! Don't want to own a "territory" and make a "royalty"? Well then, WebWhatever Corp. has another exciting opportunity for you!
If you are looking for an exciting "ground floor business opportunity" in a "trillion dollar industry", we urge you to investigate owning a WebNet Global Store/Dealership License.


Now you too can own a store selling things that nobody has ever heard of to people who don't understand how to use them.

They seem to want to take on every big corporation. They plan to compete with the future television makers with their 3d projection not-exactly-new-technology and then compete with large ISPs and cable companies for internet access and finally compete with the mobile phone companies by providing internet-based mobile phones.

And their grand business plan to enable all this competition? Oh yeah, they are going to sell "territorial" licenses to investors and sell turn-key business opportunities.

Right? Pure pump and dump - in my opinion.

[edit on 5.8.2008 by Voxel]


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 01:46 PM by Anonymous ATS
Hi, I'm a telecom and wireless industry analyst, and these guys cold-called me by chance to ask if I wanted to invest $5,000 in their business. So, not only are they asking investors to pony up for regional franchise licenses, and for retail franchises, but they are also asking investors to fund the head office.

Seems like a company that is not interested in taking any risks of their own.

I looked over the "exec team" and laughed. They have 10 officers that are C-level. Ten chiefs, and how many indians (well, one actually). There are also two President-level guys. Most of these guys have questionable educations, like "attended UBC" but no mention of graduation. Their backgrounds are not very telecom or wireless, overall, though there is a dab of experience. It seems more like retail, printing, and marketing experience...of the sort you would need to sell a dubious business plan. In my daily work in Silicon Valley, I review about 10 startups a month for investment purposes, so I know how to look at companies. This one stands out as extra-dubious (not a scam for sure, but something smells fishy).

I fully understand wireless technology, yet their site doesn't really speak of it at all. It throws around enough buzzwords to indicate that someone there has the skill to BS about wireless, but normally we'd see far more information. I won't say what is missing here, since they might just read it and add it, then look more legit. I can only say that there are vast holes in their technology story.

At one point they say subscribers will connect with CPE or Ethernet. Well, CPE (customer premise equipment) needs to be a little more specific, and Ethernet is a wired technology, so how does that fit their story at all?

They talk about WiFi, but don't specify which version, and they have stats all wrong. They under-rate DSL and dial-up, and basically lie about the speeds of those options, then overstate the speeds of their solution. Standard marketing lies, I suppose. Sadly.

As others have said, the company owns no patents, no unique technology or solutions, nothing that can't be done or replicated by any other firm large or small. Much of this has been done by others already, some successfully (Vonage VoIP) some to failure (muni WiFi).

But the last straw is the most important. Everyone in the industry has seen the prospects for Muni WiFi fade from 2005 to 2008. From being a hot idea, it has become a dead duck. Many networks have failed. Companies gone bust. Cities left hanging with partial networks that failed to deliver. The WiFi technology was not up to the task. The biggest marquee city, Philadelphia, is currently trying to salvage their broken deployment. The biggest service provider (a competitor with Webnet), Earthlink, tried a half-dozen cities, found the costs far greater than expected, the technology not up to the task, and bailed from the industry. And this company has far more resources than Webnet. Earthlink thought so little of the market that they paid Dallas a $5Million fine instead of finishing the muni WiFi project. OK, so a recognized ISP brand, with customers around the country, that tried muni Wifi, chose to pay $5M to get OUT of this business, now WebNet wants YOU to pay to get into it.

Muni Wifi, experts agree, will now exist mostly as infrastructure to support municipal operations - NOT as public access ISP.

Hey, maybe these guys are just better than Earthlink and the others. Maybe they have a better business model and plan. Maybe spreading the investment risk onto franchisees and shareholders is a better way to finance a rollout. And maybe with their great plan, rolling out in Canada, the US, and the EU all at once isn't too ambitious for a nobody company.

But to me this looks either like a legit company with dumb ideas that are bound to fail, or a scam to get your money in a pyramid franchise sales deal that ultimately fails.


reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 01:07 AM by halfmask
reply to post by Anonymous ATS


Wow thanks Anonymous ATS. This is another nail in the coffin for this one. The previous replies where enough, for me to convince my relative not to invest in this company. Yours just solidifies it for others who come across this company who happen to look through ATS.

Thanks everyone for the in sighting replies.


reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 05:19 PM by Anonymous ATS
I work at WebNet, my internal knowledge is not unlimited but I can tell you that our CPE's are wireless transreceivers that are based on medium-power 802.11g devices over 2.4 and 5.8ghz (Wi-Max soon) as well as VoIP devices and security products. We work very hard to keep your data private and secure.

I don't know of any Ethernet solutions, that is misinformation, we are wireless.
Our public websites are typical marketing driven junk and not updated as often as they should be

We will be rolling out some new internal systems this coming week and summer that will increase our ISP and VOIP handling capabilities. Our backbone is high speed fiber optic. I was told that each of our Access Points have battery power backup.

If power goes out at your house that is beyond our scope we are not a power utility, to my knowledge our current customer premise VOIP/ISP devices do require external power to operate, with possible exception to the security systems.

How fast is it during peak hours?
Our service should meet the advertised bandwidth you’re paying for, if it doesn’t, feel free to call technical support.

We are scheduled to offer some very unique ISP and VoIP services this year that will knock your socks off, I can't tell you what they are because that would destroy our competitive advantage.

Most of the investor income goes into infrastructure deployment and support. I am underpaid by about 10k per year but I like working here because of the friendly co-workers and learning/working with new technology. I am not just another number here.

I have seen a major re-organization to the chain of command here over the last few weeks (for the good).

Some of our C-Levels have worked at Rogers and Telus before, because of our smaller size we can develop and deploy new services and support faster than them, this is cutting edge technology.

I have built some of the very systems our subscribers use; we are improving them a bit each day. Everyone I have met here is legit (to the best of my knowledge).

We are still in the infrastructure and backbone deployment stage.
I hope you invest or I am out of a job…

If you have questions just call.
I doubt the senior people from WebNet ever read this board.


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 01:03 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Actually they are no longer selling Licenses
so you actually didnt even have until the end of the month.
but hey if this is how you do due dilligence is ask other peoples opinions and just think that what they think about a company they know nothing about at all is the end all be all answer then you are definitely the smartest investor i have ever heard of (have fun with your mutual fund seller... oops i mean advisor.....)

If you have questions or you dont like something that doesnt mean its bad.... thats what they used to think about people who were not white or christian back in the early days..... yep that was wrong too.......


reply posted on 5-6-2008 @ 03:56 AM by Anonymous ATS
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I have invested in the company last summer. I was told that they give out cheques every quarter. I have yet to see them. Has any investors received any cheques in the mail from the company?


reply posted on 8-6-2008 @ 06:58 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I have been an investor for 3 years and have seen a total of about $170.00 dollars from them. Nothing for quite awhile now despite phoning them many times. I would suggest other investor start phoning them regularly and let's see what happens
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