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Originally posted by enigmania
Originally posted by Pjotr
Originally posted by The Nighthawk
DD, you intercept the ball and run it for a touchdown once again!! Is there an ATS MVP Award? You definitely would be in the running. Starred & Flagged.
Is is a good post...but just a copy of a newspage article on the book on Feith. The story itself i.......There is a very good BBC or Dutch documentary on the issue of the neocon plan. I will try to find it.
The frightening point is: So we know, but there is not much we can do. Even H.Clinton supported the attack on Iraq.
I think this is the documentary you were talking about. It's made by a Dutch broadcast company and it features Col. Wilkerson, among others.
It is called "the selling of a war".(translated from Dutch)
It has English subtitles were Dutch is spoken and I would like to ask everyone that's interested to watch it, it's a great documentary.
Here's the link to part 1:
“The United States has been part and parcel to supporting the Taliban all along, and still is let me add … You have a military government in Pakistan now that is arming the Taliban to the teeth … Let me note; that [US] aid has always gone to Taliban areas … And when people from the outside try to put aid into areas not controlled by the Taliban, they are thwarted by our own State Department … Pakistan [has] initiated a major resupply effort, which eventually saw the defeat, and caused the defeat, of almost all of the anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan.” -Congressional Rep. Dana Rohrbacher, the House International Relations Committee on Global Terrorism and South Asia, 2000
“Not even the corporate US media could whitewash these facts and so explained it away by alleging that US officials had sought cooperation from Pakistan because it was the original backer of the Taliban, the hard-line Islamic leadership of Afghanistan accused by Washington of harboring Bin Laden. Then the so called ‘missing link’ came when it was revealed that the . of the ISI was the principal financier of the 9/11 hijackers … Pakistan and the ISI is the go between of the global terror explosion. Pakistan's military-intelligence apparatus, which literally created and sponsored the Taliban and Al Qaeda, is directly upheld and funded by the CIA. These facts are not even in dispute, neither in the media nor in government. Therefore when we are told by the neocon .s of the new world order that they are doing everything in their power to dismantle the global terror network what we are hearing is the exact opposite of the truth. They assembled it, they sponsored it and they continue to fund it. As any good criminal should, they have a middleman to provide plausible deniability, that middleman is the ISI and the military dictatorship of Pakistan.” -Steve Watson, “U.S. Intel Officer: Al Qaeda Leadership Allowed to Operate Freely” (www.infowars.net...)
“The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaeda. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the devil only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money.” (www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...)
Originally posted by Alvatore
WTF!!! Now they say is hoax!!.. Wat a waste of time.
Spend trillions of dollars on one stupid war. That cause many lives of people there. How idiotic can they get. Israel can get lost mannn!!!
instability in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Lebanon so as to protect Israel.
Originally posted by jasonhb
You guys sound like a bunch of paranoid people who think too much to me. Yea, and I remember Pres. Reagan was a fascist (neocon) too and he was going to start world war 3. All the liberals were hiding under their beds. "It's all a big conspiracy" Then the berlin wall fell and people were freed...It's no wonder us conservatives are proven to be much happier people. We dont spend all that time thinking people are out to get us. We find out who the bad guys are, kick their asses and go home. I call it "keeping it simple"
Feith's book, War and Decision, released last month, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W Bush on September 30, 2001, calling for the administration to focus not on taking down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network but on the aim of establishing "new regimes" in a series of states by "aiding local peoples to rid themselves of terrorists and to free themselves of regimes that support terrorism".
In quoting from that document, Feith deletes the names of all of the states to be targeted except Afghanistan, inserting the phrase "some other states" in brackets. In a facsimile of a page from a related Pentagon "campaign plan" document, the Taliban and Saddam regimes are listed as "state regimes" against which "plans and operations" might be mounted, but the names of four other states are blacked out "for security reasons".
General Wesley Clark, who commanded the North Atlantic Treaty Organization bombing campaign in the Kosovo war, recalls in his 2003 book Winning Modern Wars being told by a friend in the Pentagon in November 2001 that the list of states that Rumsfeld and deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz wanted to take down included Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan and Somalia.
Clark writes that the list also included Lebanon. Feith reveals that Rumsfeld's paper called for getting "Syria out of Lebanon" as a major goal of US policy.
Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
The strange thing about all this is, they HAD to know in advance that they'd never be able to win all these wars.
Originally posted by Tguntony
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
That snippet came from just about the most unreliable source under the sun I mean honestly the Asia times has anyone here ever really heard anything from the Asia times? Seriously people I don't doubt that there are hidden agendas but destabilization of the Middle East is probably not one of them.
[edit on 8-5-2008 by Tguntony]
Elliot Abrams — former member of PNAC, National Security Council;
pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra
affair; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist
Michael Chertoff — Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over
100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to . Homeland
Security; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; likely Mossad
Douglas Feith — effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War
Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; "dual citizen"
of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel;
former PNAC member
Ari Fleischer — White House spokesman for Bush on 9-11; "dual
citizen" of US and Israel; connected to the extremist group called
the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics
Marc Grossman — Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met
with General Mahmoud Ahmad, . of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11
financier, on or shortly after 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel
Henry Kissinger — long criminal history; wanted for war crimes in
several countries; sat on War Policy Board under Perle; chosen to
lead 9-11 Cover-Up Omission Commission; "dual citizen" of US and
Lewis "Scooter" Libby — former PNAC member; studied political
science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for
lying about outing of Valerie Plame; "dual citizen" of US and
Richard Perle — former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War
Policy Board, and PNAC member; "dual citizen" of US and Israel;
Zionist; allegedly gave $100,000 to . of Pakistan's ISI, Mahmoud
Ahmad; nicknamed "Prince of Darkness"
George Tenet — director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the "Medal
of Freedom" by Bush for his fine work on 9-11; reported to be "dual
citizen" of US and Israel
Paul Wolfowitz — Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; "dual citizen" of
US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former
PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World
Dov Zakheim — Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported
missing on 9-10-01; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; Shul
Rabbi; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer;
reputed 9-11 mastermind
Philip Zelikow — led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote
the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction;
appointed Counselor of US Department of State; "dual citizen" of US
Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
...Feith, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and most of the other key architects of the "war on terror" were part of the Project for a New American Century and its plea for a "New Pearl Harbor" to justify expansion of American militarism and regime change in the Middle East
Originally posted by FewWorldOrder
How do we know we cut them off ?, I think they are still on the CIA payroll.
Originally posted by FewWorldOrder
And if they turned on us, it was by our design.