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Topic started on 7-5-2008 @ 12:51 PM by DimensionalDetective
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Neocons ADMIT that the 'War On Terror' is a Hoax!
www.opednews.com
 Key war on terror architect Douglas Feith has now confirmed Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Wesley Clark in admitting that the so-called
War on Terror is a hoax.
In fact, starting right after 9/11 -- at the latest -- the goal has always been to create "regime change" and instability in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya,
Sudan, Somalia and Lebanon so as to protect Israel. And the goal was never really to destroy Al Qaeda.
As reported in a new article in Asia Times:
Three weeks after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, former US defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld established an official military objective of
not only removing the Saddam Hussein regime by force but overturning the regime in Iran, as well as in Syria and four other countries in the Middle
East, according to a document quoted extensively in then-under secretary of defense for policy Douglas Feith's recently published account of the Iraq
war decisions. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 12:51 PM by DimensionalDetective
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Man, I swear, the more info that comes out about this Iraq Invasion, 9/11, the "war on terror" and all the agendas tied to it, the more unbelievably
dirty and sinister it all appears to be.
I have long known that the "war on terror" was laughable at best, as Al CIAda was a "created" monster by our very own orgs...
But this has been meticulously calculated and planned out by these maniacs well before 9/11 was ever "allowed" to happen, and these madmen are
continuing right along with those agendas at the expense of us all...
 And if "terrorist strikes" were a "small price to pay for being a superpower"- and that is the reason that the U.S. government refused to
disrupt the alleged planners of the 9/11 attacks - doesn't that add weight to the claim that the U.S. government intentionally allowed the 9/11
attacks to occur? In other words, doesn't this statement by a senior officer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff tend to prove that 9/11 was intentionally
allowed to occur as the "New Pearl Harbor" which would allow America to act like "a superpower" and re-make the Middle East in its own (and
Israel's) image?
This is not an unreasonable question, especially given that Feith, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and most of the other key architects of the "war on terror"
were part of the Project for a New American Century and its plea for a "New Pearl Harbor" to justify expansion of American militarism and regime
change in the Middle East.
www.opednews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
[edit on 7-5-2008 by DimensionalDetective]
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 01:13 PM by The Nighthawk
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DD, you intercept the ball and run it for a touchdown once again!! Is there an ATS MVP Award? You definitely would be in the running. Starred &
Flagged. 
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 01:17 PM by Maxmars
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That's it DD; I'm done posting my own stuff, you have scooped me again! You rock! S&F'd!
Of course, although it's not part of your thread, the same statement holds true on virtually any "war on..." we've cooked up! It's all about
agendas, as in; not ours.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 01:23 PM by GrooveCat
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Confirms what most of us have thought all along!
I wonder what would happen if some reporter from the MSM decided to cover this, would it cause an outrage or just get the reporter fired and
debunked?
I feel it would be the latter!
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 01:29 PM by downtown436
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Wow that is what I always thought, and what I've been saying this whole time. It's time to hang these traitors from the nearest telephone pole.
We are way past due for a revolt in this country, not only for our own sake, but for the sake of the world.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 01:32 PM by The Nighthawk
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Originally posted by GrooveCat
Confirms what most of us have thought all along!
I wonder what would happen if some reporter from the MSM decided to cover this, would it cause an outrage or just get the reporter fired and
debunked?
I feel it would be the latter! 
Fired, debunked, blacklisted, and the story would never ever EVER reach prime-time or the front page. When practically ALL the mainstream media is
owned by companies who stand to gain from endless war, the truth about the motivation for war will never see the light of day.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:11 PM by DimensionalDetective
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reply to post by The Nighthawk
Indeed...When the MSM basically ignores "The Pentagon Pundit Propaganda" Scheme that recently was exposed, that should tell you all you need to know
about where their interests lie. It was a virtual BLACKOUT by every single MSM outlet save for PBS.
This entire system is so insanely polluted, corrupted and infiltrated that it makes an Orwell novel look tame.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:24 PM by GrooveCat
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Very true! That's the reason I stopped watching the news a long time ago. These days ATS ends up being my main source for the worlds goings on, which
while not being perfect and a damn sight better I say!
I still hope though that something will switch in someone importance mind and make them blow it all wide open.
Ah to dream...
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:34 PM by saint4God
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I'm not sure "hoax" is the right word. We did declare war, we did fight, people have died. To say these things did not happen is a pretty
substantial claim. It seems the original poster (and opinionated article author being quoted) may be trying to say the War on Terror was created.
For that I think there would be little disagreement. The President declared it and made it so. The question circling everyone's mind was/is, "is
it the right thing to do?" For that I don't have the answer and I suspect few do. We know that Al Qaeda was created to fight the Soviet Union, we
know we cut them off, we know they turned on us, we know that we helped Iraq fight Iran, we know that Saddam was not spending the money we gave him
for what he said he was, we know Saddam thumbed his nose at the international community. It's a tough question and this article falls far short of
addressing any of it.
Many other questions come to mind are "What is a 'neocon'?" "How are they different than other 'con's?" and "Have all stated that it is a
'hoax'?" The language of this thread seems more propagandized and bent than what government tells us.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:42 PM by Gun Totin Gerbil
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Dis is just liberal propoganda anti-america BS , I seen Fox news and I can tell you for sure this is false dis info communist infiltrated lies and
mistruths . If you want 2 learn da truth , youz listen to Cheney and Bolton who never tell u lies . There is terroristS! under your bed from
islamonazi fascist-commie infiltrators , they are the ones polluting your minds to beieve this BS. You is must be traitor and must leave country to
beleive in this .
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Nice find, star and flag )
PS above is lampoonery , not always apparant on message boards )
Originally posted by GrooveCat
That's the reason I stopped watching the news a long time ago.

The Asia times , where the original article came from, is a good online news source worth looking at .
[edit on 7-5-2008 by Gun Totin Gerbil]
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:43 PM by magicmushroom
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Its all part of the Zionist agenda, how many Jews are there in the US Goverment and how many are in the forces fighting in the ME? The bogus WOT has 2
objectives rob the ME of its oil and provide Israel an extended safe haven at the American taxpayers expense.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:49 PM by saint4God
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Originally posted by Gun Totin Gerbil
PS above is lampoonery , not always apparant on message boards ) 
Always easier to make fun of a person asking questions than to answer them.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:50 PM by GrooveCat
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Ha, you almost had me for a sec, a was like 'who's this guy think he is?!'
I guess it really isn't always apparent on boards!
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 04:09 PM by FewWorldOrder
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saint4God:
"... Al Qaeda was created to fight the Soviet Union, we know we cut them off, we know they turned on us,..."
How do we know we cut them off ?, I think they are still on the CIA payroll.
And if they turned on us, it was by our design.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 04:27 PM by mybigunit
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Originally posted by saint4God
I'm not sure "hoax" is the right word. We did declare war, we did fight, people have died. To say these things did not happen is a pretty
substantial claim. It seems the original poster (and opinionated article author being quoted) may be trying to say the War on Terror was created.
For that I think there would be little disagreement. The President declared it and made it so. The question circling everyone's mind was/is, "is
it the right thing to do?" For that I don't have the answer and I suspect few do. We know that Al Qaeda was created to fight the Soviet Union, we
know we cut them off, we know they turned on us, we know that we helped Iraq fight Iran, we know that Saddam was not spending the money we gave him
for what he said he was, we know Saddam thumbed his nose at the international community. It's a tough question and this article falls far short of
addressing any of it.
Many other questions come to mind are "What is a 'neocon'?" "How are they different than other 'con's?" and "Have all stated that it is a
'hoax'?" The language of this thread seems more propagandized and bent than what government tells us.
[edit on 7-5-2008 by saint4God] 
Ill answer your questions
"is it the right thing to do?" Invade Afganistan Yes we were attacked and we have a right to defend ourselves. Even if the government did set it
up the people should of known not to do it that it would be used as propaganda to blow them up.
To invade Iraq no that was not the right thing to do AT ALL. Nothing and nothing good at all has come from this war except for lots of money being
spent, lots of death, high high oil prices, and the only somewhat liberal country in a very old fashion area gone.
As far as if they stated its a hoax they may not or they may have frankly with news you never know but there is no reason why you should treat this
news from this source any different than the news you would get from Fox News.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 04:43 PM by MrdDstrbr
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The strange thing about all this is, they HAD to know in advance that they'd never be able to win all these wars.
They HAD to know the Iraq war would be an absolute quagmire.
They HAD to know all these wars would bankrupt the US and turn most of the rest of the world against them.
They HAD to know that this could end up starting WWIII and drawing in countries like China, Russia and Japan.
Why would they intentionally start a bunch of wars that they KNEW they couldn't win?
Unless the US was being set up to take a BIG fall.....?
If the US is being set up to fall - why, and who benefits....?
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 04:58 PM by Sator
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Originally posted by GrooveCat
Very true! That's the reason I stopped watching the news a long time ago. These days ATS ends up being my main source for the worlds goings on, which
while not being perfect and a damn sight better I say!

I couldn't agree more with you. That's a very sound affirmative to make.
Originally posted by GrooveCat
I still hope though that something will switch in someone importance mind and make them blow it all wide open.
Ah to dream... 
Why can't you be that someone?
Now, here is the catch:
Somehow a lot of "us" can see through all that's going on around the world, and how most of what we thought it was fact actually is a made-up
story.
Why do we still keep "hoping" and "dreaming" about stuff getting better, THAT's the real mystery to me.
It doesn't matter if we figure all the evil schemes out there, for they keep affecting and developing as time passes, because...
We keep waiting and visualizing an outside hero when we should be embracing the one within...
...and when the fake hero appears, guess who we will embrace?
Peace
PS.: Groove, I really liked your post, it made me think a bit... *u
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 05:10 PM by Pjotr
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Is is a good post...but just a copy of a newspage article on the book on Feith. The story itself is old. We already knew about the RumsWolfChenScam to
conquer the Middle East. This is only a confirmation of what was known. There is a very good BBC or Dutch documentary on the issue of the neocon plan.
I will try to find it.
The frightening point is: So we know, but there is not much we can do. Even H.Clinton supported the attack on Iraq.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 05:15 PM by Gun Totin Gerbil
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Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
Unless the US was being set up to take a BIG fall.....?
If the US is being set up to fall - why, and who benefits....? 
Well some would say the old city of london banks, The Templars of the Crown . From a very old banking dynasty , the Knights Templars . That the US
judiciary system and the fed are owned by them, that Independance was just a myth for the masses . The US was used for it's industrial capability and
population to propogate a new british empire, but the british would 'appear' to be the lesser partner .
But a time has come to move on for this old dynasty , the US has had it's time and a new host must be used . China .
And so the downfall of the US is neccessary to enable the new carrier of empire to come to fruition .
So really, they saying . well thanks for the help and all that, but we got to kick you into the kerb right now, it's business, nothing personal.
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