Acording to recent developements, over 90% of blacks should be considered racist., page 10


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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 09:16 PM by atlscribe
Originally posted by poet1b
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A poll is nothing more than a guess, and the poll you referred to guessed wrong. This is basic reality, whether or not the article about the poll was in the NYTimes. You want a link, here ya go.

www.msnbc.msn.com...


You've seemed to missed the point by a country mile.

The poll I posted was dated in 2007, just last year, and it showed Clinton holding a significant margin over Obama. Point being that before his visibility and before Bill's controversial statements, Hillary commanded a sizeable chunk of the Black democratic vote. You posting current polls is meaningless, as I'm sure even the most lax political followers would know that Obama currently has the vast majority of the Black vote.


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 10:13 PM by projectvxn
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Well I can't run for president so don't worry. I left Costa Rica when I was 4 years old. All I've ever known is L.A., Las Vegas, and Reno. I have a brother that serves in Iraq, what in that are you against? What you seem to exemplify is xenophobia. Which is unhealthy and leads to an irrational fear of things you know nothing of...


And for the record, I happen to believe that Ron Paul is the best suited for the office of the presidency, or Jesse Ventura. Or maybe a team of both. That is a damned dream ticket. But I can't find anything to be against Obama on an ideological level, a personal level, or even a political level. Maybe, just maybe we need a guy like Obama, to pave the way for Independents and Constitutionalist political parties. He's just different enough. He's something else within the Democratic Party. All we can really do is wait and see.

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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:32 PM by Tricky63
This really makes me sad.My grandfather tells me of the time he came back from WWII.He and his friends were so proud that they had a chance to serve the county.So pround of the fact that they were given the chance to fight.They thought that mabey the country was changing.They thought that at last they would be looked at real americans for a change.They thought that mabey since they put their lives on the line for their county that mabey just mabey things would start to change.One week after the war was over he and his friends were almost beaten to death by some whites who didnt think they should be wearing the uniform.One of his friends became blind as a result of his beating.I asked him did he hated white people for what the had done...he looked at and said...no.He hated the ones who did the beating but it wasnt like every white man in america beat him.I was 12 years old when he told me that and i couldnt understand at the time why he felt that way now I do.Im 45 now with a family of my own.Ive served my county as well.My grandfather was the greatest man ive ever known and if he can not judge people for the color of their skin after what has happen to him then its possible for anyone to do the same. My point is people are people.There is good and bad in everyone.Some people will understand that some wont but I have faith in this country and I know in my heart that one day we will come together.One day my great great great grand kids and yours will look back on this time and wonder...what the hell were they thinking. The fact that a black man is this close to become the leader of this country is amazing.I gives me hope that it appears we are on our way to look past race.Even if Obama doest get to be the president it still gives me hope.Thats something that cant be taken away.I wish my grandfather was alive to see it.

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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 11:04 PM by projectvxn
Originally posted by drwizardphd
Originally posted by blimpseeker
No but as with obama, it does make you questionable...I wouldn't vote for you either based on your past.

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It makes him questionable? Because he wasn't born to white parents in a capitalist country he's questionable? You, sir, are a racist.

And the circumstances under which someone is born do not constitute that person's "past". One has no control over how one's brought into the world. The only true judgment of one's character is how they deal with what they are dealt.



He's right. It does make me questionable. But what happens when one gives the answers? Will he be satisfied? Will he question the particular pre-school I went to in Costa Rica when I was 3 or 4? They had uniforms...and I remember hitting my head one day on a desk. And I remember that they made us brush our teeth 3 times a day. And I liked the uniform, I thought it looked cool on me.

Would he reject this? How about this one. My family and I didn't come to this country, this country brought us here. On a plane even. And I've loved every second of my life here since my feet touched the tarmac.

Even if I could run for president, would he reject that and add some sort of loose association to add some air of sinister deeds? Questionable things get answers, If you don't seek out the answers there is only speculation left, add prejudice and xenophobia and you get a person who would reject any and every answer regardless of validity if it doesn't fit his or her viewpoint of reality.



Maybe that uniformed preschool was in fact an drug-cartel front and I got hit in the head with a brick of coc aine, after which I spent the rest of my day licking coke powder off my super awesome uniform, and the reason they had us brush our teeth 3 times a week is because they didn't want evidence of kids on coke...

...and I liked it.


Does this sound right to you? If this isn't true would you still use it just to discredit me publicly? What if it wasn't my quote, what if you paid some one to say this and then put it out as fact? Would that be justified in winning the race? Supposing you and I were running against each other.







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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 09:31 AM by poet1b
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Well, if all your friends and associates where Latin American socialists who spouted anti U.S. propaganda that would make your run for the Presidency very questionable, far more than your place of birth. This is the thing about Obama, he is running for the President of the U.S. while most of the people very close to him blame the U.S. for all the problems of the world, and are not proud of the U.S.. In addition he has numerous ties to the Muslim world which go beyond family connections, which he seems to have sought out.


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 01:21 PM by projectvxn
Originally posted by poet1b
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post by projectvxn



Well, if all your friends and associates where Latin American socialists who spouted anti U.S. propaganda that would make your run for the Presidency very questionable, far more than your place of birth. This is the thing about Obama, he is running for the President of the U.S. while most of the people very close to him blame the U.S. for all the problems of the world, and are not proud of the U.S.. In addition he has numerous ties to the Muslim world which go beyond family connections, which he seems to have sought out.


I know Muslim people. Friends, dear friends I wouldn't trade for anything. I know some anarchists, I know some people who we could both call communists, I know people who are Right wing neo-cons, I know people who are your most staunch of liberals, I know sheep and I know free thinkers, and I love them all and would not apologize for my associations with them. But I subscribe to none of their BS. I suppose by my current circle of friends alone you could pretty much accuse me of being tied to anything. I have friends who taught me martial arts who are Chinese nationals, and have since gone back. Two of my best friends are both Iranian and Israeli(respectively), and they hang out all the time at the coffee shop. I know a few drug dealers too(No I'm not one of their customers), I know people who are pretty much criminals(these people I maintain a very loose association with).

The point is, you can't just blanket peoples' character like this. It isn't fair. Yes, these people have helped me become who I am today. They opened my mind to so many diverse thoughts and opinions and they will continue to do so for as long as I know them. But I'm an individual, and all though they helped shape me, they are NOT me. And the same can be said for ANYONE.

This is a witch hunt and it is high time America stopped being so damned scared of everything that they'd rather make an obviously dumb choice(like voting for McCain instead of Obama or voting for either instead of Ron Paul).

All I'm saying is step back and think about how much of this is loose association and rumor, and how much of it is reality. You can't trust everything you read and see. All of the things that have been put out about Obama's "Muslimness" has proved to be false. That says to me that people are so desperate for dirt that they'll make stuff up just to stir the pot. People are very simple. Like the accusations of Ron Paul having written something blatantly racist, but that got him pretty much buried in the Race despite the fact that it was confirmed that he did not write any such words.

It's BS. And it should really stop.

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reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 08:26 AM by jam321
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Do you mean 90% of black voters or do you mean 90% of all blacks?

There about 40 million blacks and only 12 million are registered voters.


reply posted on 21-8-2008 @ 09:38 AM by Fathom
Originally posted by jam321
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Do you mean 90% of black voters or do you mean 90% of all blacks?

There about 40 million blacks and only 12 million are registered voters.

Obviously the information in the OP is determined by polling black registered voters.
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