Originally posted by catinthebox
i disagree, anything human created has a cause, there was a motivation behind it, there would only be a cause to the universe if god existed, that's circular logic right there,

cause as in "cause and effect", not cause as in a purpose.

Originally posted by catinthebox
i disagree, anything human created has a cause, there was a motivation behind it, there would only be a cause to the universe if god existed, that's circular logic right there,

I guess you do not believe evolution is the cause for the origin of species since there was no intelligent motivation behind it.

Science is the search for causes. The law of causation is what science if founded on. If there were no causes science would not be possible. Which goes back to my main point in the OP about the rational intelligibility of the universe. There is a uniformity in nature which implies a higher order than random processes.