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Obama Makes The Illuminati Hand Gesture: PHOTO

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posted on May, 7 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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Haha, I was thinking the same about Ron Paul's handshake just being sissy, not Masonic. As for RockPuck, another Mason come to say this gesture is meaningless, what more do you need than the looks on their faces? Use a bit of that feminine intuition you've supressed while skiming through this pictures. Look at the one with Putin! They know EXACTLY what they're doing and the occult meaning of that hand sign

www.scribd.com...




posted on May, 7 2008 @ 01:58 PM
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It is a common hand sign.

I use it and I ain't no ILUMMINATI.

BTW

Bush is suing that at TEXAS University... the LONGHORNS... unless every student there is Illuminati.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 04:28 PM
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lol, feminine intuition?


I see nothing of importance from those pictures. Maybe if they where flipping the camera off, I might be a bit concerned. Most of the Bush ones where taken at UOT, and of course you forget to site where each individual was when the picture was taken.

Also, what does the sign mean? How do you know thats what it means? Why is this significant? Why don't you EX your quotations?


I am not afraid of a hand sign.



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 05:55 PM
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Since I had carpal tunnel surgery it has been hard for me to bring down my pinky when using my thumb in any way. So there could be reasons for the gesture. Also if you have video footage it is VERY easy to cut ONE frame out from some action and claim it was anything.

The other thought that comes to my mind seeing that still is someone listening to another talk and they are thinking blah blah blah blah and making a gesture like a mouth opening and closing many times.

Anyways just an Obama thought.

Came from Michael Reagan.

Why does a married man usually go to church?

Simple because his wife makes him go. How much does he pay attention at church? Almost not at all just waiting to get home and watch the game or something similar.

So who likes Reverend Wright and is sold on his rhetoric? Mrs. Obama.

Just a tangental thought.

As for the Ron Paul handshake. Last I checked and heard from the Grand Lodge of Texas Ron Paul is NOT a Mason.

Second you shake someones hand across a 6+ foot desk and one or the other person is semi-limp handshaker and that is what you get for a shake.

Happens to me all the time when someone who really doesn't want to shake hands does.



[edit on 7-5-2008 by wlessard]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 08:51 PM
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The proper way is with the middle and ring fingers down with the thumb over those two fingers and you can clearly see that this is not the case. I realy don't think that he is flashing the Mano Cornuto at all. Nice try though!



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 09:05 PM
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No, I was a Ron Paul supporter (when I thought he had a chance) and I have seen him shake hands in alot of interviews and appearances. He doesn't shake like a sissy. Although it isn't an "Illuminati" handshake (if there is such a thing) it does look like another hand shake that I've seen in the pages of a book before.

[edit on 7-5-2008 by lazy1981]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 09:15 PM
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You seem to forget that politicians will pander and pay homage to what ever the "fad" is in the circus that we call public opinion. It's one of the bad things that comes with "democraticly" elected officials (I use that term loosley) they will do anything for a vote or two. It's sad isn't it. Look back to the Romans and you'll see alot of the same shenanigans. On the flip side we may be on to something here. Maybe they went too far for a few votes?


[edit on 7-5-2008 by lazy1981]



posted on May, 7 2008 @ 11:55 PM
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Not sure who is shaking hands with Ron Paul but it takes 2 people to shake hands. I was NOT saying he had a limp handshake. The other guy could and like I said reaching across a 6 foot table can make it hard to shake hands properly.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 12:07 AM
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Silly, I've been to concerts over the years and the sign is given often. As far as it's original meaning may be for "Satanic". However I believe in the current times leaders are trying to let the middle and lower class people know there one of us.
Also the Hawaiian sign HANG LOOSE Is the thumb extened and the pinkie extened with all fingers folded.
Someones on the fringes out here.
Be KEWL



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 12:26 AM
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Oh it doesn't matter how Obama gestures with his hands. As long as I see the index and pinkie fingers up, it's all 'Satanic' to me, leading me to believe it's Illuminati. Now I think I'll change my mind again and vote for the one that doesn't flash that 'evil' hand gesture.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by lazy1981
reply to post by AllSeeingI
 


The proper way is with the middle and ring fingers down with the thumb over those two fingers and you can clearly see that this is not the case. I realy don't think that he is flashing the Mano Cornuto at all. Nice try though!


Agreed. And btw, the “I love you” sign has the thumb, first finger and pinky extended and middle and ring fingers down.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 01:22 AM
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The illuminati will die through external alien intervention there is no chance of them winning they are facing not a battle of Earth now one of Galactic proportion, and Satanics will be destroyed from the face of the planet.


In blood, or in peace.

Added;

Well the evil like blood don't they, so blood they shall have but in the end run it will only be their own.

[edit on 8-5-2008 by TheRealYoda7]



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 02:51 AM
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No, Aliens/UFOs are Illuminati/Masonic inventions to create a scenario in which the people will accept a UN world government to deliver them from a fake alien invasion. Aliens most certainly aren't here to take out the Illuminati, but that's the perfect line to trap truth-seekers though. Aliens are real, yeah, and they're gonna cruch the New World Order... suuuurree. Physical aliens from other planets aren't real. Non-physical spirits seen on '___', Ayahuasca, Psilocibyn, Peyote, now those are real.

The Masonic Truth Behind Aliens/UFOs:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's all in there.

[edit on 8-5-2008 by freight tomsen]



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by freight tomsen
Obama and his wife are in the CFR, and the CFR's logo is a naked man on horseback giving that hand-sign. The CFR's stated mission is eroding America's national soverignty into a world government.

Actually it's another hand sign.

The 3rd picture of the Beatles on the OP's link is very interesting because not only is John making the horns, Paul is giving us 3 sixes to accompany it.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 08:10 AM
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Personally I think Hillary and Obama are trying not to flip the bird to the american people more than anything else.

McCain is not much better but at least he tries to appear to be conservative sometimes instead of socialist.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUncleSam


Oh and that picture of Obama throwing the sign, nah, he's mid way through a wave and it's just the angle of the photo...


Who is the world waves their hand in that manner honestly? That is a rather lame explanation for it. It is rather weird that you only see politicians for the most part use it.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by freight tomsen
They know EXACTLY what they're doing and the occult meaning of that hand sign


As an occultist of many years, I've never ran across anyone who actually knows anything about the occult, and thinks that the hand sign in question has anything to do with occultism.


Physical aliens from other planets aren't real.


And how, pray tell, do you know that? You're going to tell us that in the entire universe, which is so huge we can't even see 99.9% of it, that you're absolutely certain that no physical life exists anywhere else?

Sounds to me like you're just blowing smoke.



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 08:29 AM
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You know, I went and looked at all those pictures and at least half look like they are caught mid-wave. You know the one where you're hand is still but your fingers wave up and down. I've also seen a lot of people who put their index and pinky fingers out when they are pointing at someone, or making a point they feel is important. Until someone who can prove they are from the Illuminati, assuming it even exists, or from the Masons comes to me and tells me that it is indeed a symbol of either of them, it's all just a bunch of hogwash to me.

Edited to say, there are at least two pictures of guys in suits with their hand across their chest and it looks to me like they are fixing their lapels.

[edit on 8-5-2008 by Jenna]


Ox

posted on May, 8 2008 @ 09:46 AM
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I'm just saying that it didn't look like a rather firm handshake, although this is coming from a guy who is 6'2" and 280lbs. I've had people shake my hand like that before and I KNOW they aren't "Illuminati"... Just.. happened to grab my hand wrong.. or.. just had little wussy fish hand shakes.. Its nothing personal, I'm just making an observation



posted on May, 8 2008 @ 11:13 AM
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Im sorry, but this is a pretty lacking example of how Obama is in with the Masons and Illuminati. Chances are he is in mid wave or something of that sort. Not to mention, if these are secret societies, I highly doubt they would be showing the entire word a "secret" handsign. It just wouldnt make sense.



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