reply to post by AllSeeingI
Dunno. Seems like his thumb is in the wrong position. From your linked page, the only other person who holds his thumb anywhere close to that is Pat
Robertson.
Seems like more of a sock-puppet thing than Satanic, the way Obama's doing it.
Obama Makes The Illuminati Hand Gesture: PHOTO, page 1
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Topic started on 7-5-2008 @ 01:23 AM by AllSeeingI
This photo was featured on the foxnews.com web mainpage at 115am CDT May 7, 2008.
This is the first photo I have seen of Obama making this imfamous hand signal. I have seen W. Bush do it many times and Hillary Clinton in a few shots.
Seems like every candidate is flashing "the sign"...
But why and for what purpose? Perhaps they are signaling to the 'powers that be' that they will "play ball".
See many photos of powerful people from all over the world showing the signal and learn about it HERE.
This photo was featured on the foxnews.com web mainpage at 115am CDT May 7, 2008.
This is the first photo I have seen of Obama making this imfamous hand signal. I have seen W. Bush do it many times and Hillary Clinton in a few shots.
Seems like every candidate is flashing "the sign"...
But why and for what purpose? Perhaps they are signaling to the 'powers that be' that they will "play ball".
See many photos of powerful people from all over the world showing the signal and learn about it HERE.
reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:04 AM by ElectricUncleSam
reply to post by hikix
That is interesting... I thought about this for a bit and you're right.. Only politicians and young kids that have no idea what it means...
Oh and that picture of Obama throwing the sign, nah, he's mid way through a wave and it's just the angle of the photo...
[edit on 7-5-2008 by ElectricUncleSam]
That is interesting... I thought about this for a bit and you're right.. Only politicians and young kids that have no idea what it means...
Oh and that picture of Obama throwing the sign, nah, he's mid way through a wave and it's just the angle of the photo...
[edit on 7-5-2008 by ElectricUncleSam]
reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 03:05 AM by freight tomsen
I like how JoshNorton, *snip* comes in immediately to say "dunno, seems like his thumb is in the wrong position."
Obama and his wife are in the CFR, and the CFR's logo is a naked man on horseback giving that hand-sign. The CFR's stated mission is eroding America's national soverignty into a world government.
Type in "Illuminati Hand Sign" to google and click on the first couple links that come up. This sign has been used for thousands of years to represent devil's horns, but recently has been called "Metal Horns, UT Horns" and even "I Love You."
Click the Scribd link in my signature to see about 40 pictures of high-profile world figures giving this Illuminati hand sign. Notice the looks on their faces! They are most definitely not saying "I love you."
There are many secret sayings, handshakes, and gestures used by Masons both to recognize one another in public as well as to communicate specific information. For instance, there are many mudras (hand-gestures) commonly used by Masons posing for portraits/photos. A common one is known as “the Hidden Hand” whereby the right hand is placed partially or fully within one’s shirt/jacket. Masonic kings, presidents, prime ministers, and media personalities have been photographed posing the Hidden Hand. Another common one is “the Claw,” right hand at chest bending all knuckles into a claw.
Perhaps the most commonly displayed hand-signs are the Satanic Devil Horns, made by bending the middle and ring fingers, extending just the index and pinky fingers. The thumb can be stuck out or clasped in; both are used, and have been by Satanists for centuries. Recently, this along with many other Masonic hand-signs have been leaked into popular culture and given different exoteric meanings to the mislead public. For example the Devil Horns with thumb out is often used to say “I love you.”
If you listen to Heavy Metal music, the Devil Horns are called “Metal Horns” and the whole audience makes the mudra. Even President Bush’s Alumni University of Texas calls the hand sign “UT Horns” and students flash them at rallies and sporting events. But, UT or Metal Horns cannot account for the scores of world political/media figures who have been photographed making this Satanic gesture (also notice the mischievous looks on their faces): Most every member of the Bush family, both Georges, Laura, Barbara, and the daughters too, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Dan Quayle, Jon Edwards, Prince William, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, Iranian President Ahmadinajad, Israeli Prime Minister Yasser Arafat, and many others have all been photographed making this sign. Michael Jackson, Prince, Penn and Teller, also “Christian” singer Amy Grant and televangelists Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Rodney Brown, and Benny Hinn have all been photographed making the Devil Horns sign. The Council on Foreign Relations logo is a naked man aback a white horse giving the Devil Horns.
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[edit on 7-5-2008 by 12m8keall2c]
Obama and his wife are in the CFR, and the CFR's logo is a naked man on horseback giving that hand-sign. The CFR's stated mission is eroding America's national soverignty into a world government.
Type in "Illuminati Hand Sign" to google and click on the first couple links that come up. This sign has been used for thousands of years to represent devil's horns, but recently has been called "Metal Horns, UT Horns" and even "I Love You."
Click the Scribd link in my signature to see about 40 pictures of high-profile world figures giving this Illuminati hand sign. Notice the looks on their faces! They are most definitely not saying "I love you."
There are many secret sayings, handshakes, and gestures used by Masons both to recognize one another in public as well as to communicate specific information. For instance, there are many mudras (hand-gestures) commonly used by Masons posing for portraits/photos. A common one is known as “the Hidden Hand” whereby the right hand is placed partially or fully within one’s shirt/jacket. Masonic kings, presidents, prime ministers, and media personalities have been photographed posing the Hidden Hand. Another common one is “the Claw,” right hand at chest bending all knuckles into a claw.
“At his trial for conspiracy to commit homicide, Satanist rebel Charles Manson was observed giving a variety of Masonic hand signs, including the Masonic sign of distress. The same sign was reportedly given by Mormon founder Joseph Smith as he lay dying on the floor of an Illinois jail on a variety of criminal charges. Lying bleeding and desperate, Smith's raspy voice could be heard crying out the plaintive, Masonic wail, calling on Masons to help a brother in dire trouble, ‘Is there no help for the widow's son?’” -Texe Marrs, “Codex Magica” (44)
Perhaps the most commonly displayed hand-signs are the Satanic Devil Horns, made by bending the middle and ring fingers, extending just the index and pinky fingers. The thumb can be stuck out or clasped in; both are used, and have been by Satanists for centuries. Recently, this along with many other Masonic hand-signs have been leaked into popular culture and given different exoteric meanings to the mislead public. For example the Devil Horns with thumb out is often used to say “I love you.”
“The sign often is confused with the deaf's signing of the phrase, ‘I love you.’ While at first this appears an odd resemblance, we register an ‘ahh, I get it!’ emotion when we discover that the person who invented, or created, the hand sign system for the deaf, Helen Keller, was herself an occultist and Theosophist. Did Keller purposely design the deaf's ‘I love you’ sign to be such a remarkable imitation of the classic sign of Satan? Was Keller saying, basically, ‘I love you, Devil’?” -Texe Marrs, “Codex Magica” (120)
If you listen to Heavy Metal music, the Devil Horns are called “Metal Horns” and the whole audience makes the mudra. Even President Bush’s Alumni University of Texas calls the hand sign “UT Horns” and students flash them at rallies and sporting events. But, UT or Metal Horns cannot account for the scores of world political/media figures who have been photographed making this Satanic gesture (also notice the mischievous looks on their faces): Most every member of the Bush family, both Georges, Laura, Barbara, and the daughters too, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Dan Quayle, Jon Edwards, Prince William, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, Iranian President Ahmadinajad, Israeli Prime Minister Yasser Arafat, and many others have all been photographed making this sign. Michael Jackson, Prince, Penn and Teller, also “Christian” singer Amy Grant and televangelists Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Rodney Brown, and Benny Hinn have all been photographed making the Devil Horns sign. The Council on Foreign Relations logo is a naked man aback a white horse giving the Devil Horns.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 08:02 AM by Gemwolf
Originally posted by ElectricUncleSam
Oh and that picture of Obama throwing the sign, nah, he's mid way through a wave and it's just the angle of the photo...
[edit on 7-5-2008 by ElectricUncleSam]
I agree. He could just as well be busy making a "sock puppet" to entertain a nearby child? It's difficult with pictures. You've got a moment in time captured on film, and that picture must tell you a thousand words. You can only make up your mind about what's going on, based on that single point in time. You don't know what happened just before the picture was taken or what happened just after. Which is a bit unfair IMO.
It can clearly be seen in many of the images on the linked site. You can see that many of the people are in the middle of waving or some other hand motion, but captured at the exact moment it looks like they're waving about said hand "signal". (The Maria Shriver, Yasser Arafat, Kenneth Copeland, etc. are perfect examples of "false signalling".)
Is Obama intentionally making said hand signal? Possibly. Possibly not. What's the big picture? We don't know. Is this picture enough to convince me "without a doubt"? No.
reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 08:16 AM by CzErased
ron paul and the illuminati [or masonic] hand shake.
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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 09:01 AM by JustMe74
Having been to a couple of Obama rallies... I have heard people in the crowd yell "I love you" or "We love you" to Obama... he usually replies
with "I love you too!". It's quite possible that he was signing to a deaf person in the audience, or maybe a group of deaf people who were in
attendance. Without knowing anything about the context of the photo, it's really hard to say.
By the way, why do people keep demonizing the CFR? Have you read their magazine, Foreign Affairs? It's quite good. Why go after the CFR, as opposed to any of the other thousands of non partisan think tanks / research groups in Washington? I just don't get it.
By the way, why do people keep demonizing the CFR? Have you read their magazine, Foreign Affairs? It's quite good. Why go after the CFR, as opposed to any of the other thousands of non partisan think tanks / research groups in Washington? I just don't get it.
reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 10:42 AM by lost in the midwest
reply to post by jetxnet
I quest you never been to a University of Texas football game.
"hook em horns"
I quest you never been to a University of Texas football game.
"hook em horns"
reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 11:43 AM by dave420
reply to post by AllSeeingI
What would be the purpose of him flashing his NWO gang sign? It doesn't make any sense. Surely he'd get into office, then do his nastyness. Due to the fact the initial argument doesn't stand up to any sort of logical scrutiny, this looks like more paranoid ramblings from someone looking to find the boogeyman where there isn't one.
What would be the purpose of him flashing his NWO gang sign? It doesn't make any sense. Surely he'd get into office, then do his nastyness. Due to the fact the initial argument doesn't stand up to any sort of logical scrutiny, this looks like more paranoid ramblings from someone looking to find the boogeyman where there isn't one.
reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 01:39 PM by cindymars
reply to post by hikix
Theosophist and Occultist are not worshipers of Satan. OMG!
Edited to add:
If Obama is giving the sign, he does not look like he is good at it.
[edit on 7-5-2008 by cindymars]
Theosophist and Occultist are not worshipers of Satan. OMG!
Edited to add:
If Obama is giving the sign, he does not look like he is good at it.
[edit on 7-5-2008 by cindymars]
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