sorry ... but your way off on this one... this thread has no legs... the government is not promoting Bin Laden... Bin Laden is promoting him self.. and as far as those pictures go... no one has disputed what he looks like.. I dont know where you got that phoney perception.. ????

I can't help noticing the difference of shape in his nose, and his beard been grey in 2004 then black in 2007, you'd expect those dates to be the other way round.. or does binladen dye his beard?


although you have to accept one image is ALOT more blurry than the other, but still you can make out differences...

Then your saying the Clinton administration went allong with the whole charade also... and that his whole biography is just a fairy tale??? He has quite a history of being a bad boy.. now I might go along with the tale of him being dead... and there keeping him going to apease the whacko muslims out there.. that could be a possibility???

Absurd to think he was a made-up villain.
I would love to see you post a pic of him with NO nose, and a roasted beard. And X’d out eyeballs.

Do you think that the whole world would let the US perpetrate a fraudulent person like bin laden for nearly 20 years? No Way No how.

Is there 1 other country (friend or foe of the US) that also thinks he is fake?

edit to change 10 years to nearly 20...i forgot about him and the whole Afgan USSR war.

look it up.

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Makes sense sometimes..... the radical ones will go crazy when they find out he is dead... who can figure.. they get mad at us and they kill there neighbors... ?????? kinda like me getting mad at my neighbor.. so I burn my house down... now that will teach em.. HUh.. duhhhhhh ooops..

Baseball101:

and i know for a fact that the mass media would not be a reliable source.

And that is exactly the source of your so called photo-proof.
Quite a contradiction, don’t you think?

There is no denying that Osama is as real person. There is also no denying that he is a terrorist. However I tend to believe that he is being used as a scapegoat. I think the government are using his images to constantly instill fear in the masses. As soon as a threat is Idle for a long period of time people stop worrying about the danger. The government is promoting this guy constantly to keep us worried about terror attacks ect. The last thing the government wants is for us to stop worrying and move away from under it's 'protective wing'. By parading images and videos of Bin Laden the government is effectively trying to muster support for its so-called war on terror.

OP
Thanks for adding the link to your original source to your first post.

So, do YOU think bin laden is a real person, or not?

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America knows where he is They know what he had for lunch and they know what colour pants he has on today.

If you think for one second they dont then your so in the dark


No i don't have proof This is just what i think

America use him to bring fear into the lives of people

If they take him out then people would say we don't need to spend all this money and so on

I think you are absolutely right. If Bin Laden is dead then Bush and Co. would have no-one to pin the blame on. Osama is like the ultimate villian... hiding in his cave commanding his minions to attack. The government wants us to believe that this guy is invincible so when they do eventually catch up with him we all worship them for delivering us from evil! I think if he is infact dead we will never know... the government is keeping him 'alive' to keep us in line.

Yep, he IS real. I don’t put it past the government to hold up a demon for cause of war.

Anyhow, welcome to ATS

P.S. check your u2u’s

Just some helpful info on how to post quotes from an external source.

Might want to edit them before a mod comes along and edits them for you.

Peace