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Originally posted by The Nighthawk
Originally posted by jsobecky
I'm a guy, Nighthawk.
Actually, you're a troll.
Originally posted by The Nighthawk
Adolescent, eh? Care to actually try and dispute the documented lies of George W. Bush with referenced facts, instead of bull#?
Originally posted by The Nighthawk
Got some sources to back up your "Liberal Newsrag" comment?
Tribune Covers For Obama's Terrorist Friends
By Cliff Kincaid
May 8, 2008
The Chicago Tribune, which once employed Barack Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, is refusing to publish the truth about a Weather Underground terrorist bombing that killed a policeman. The paper apparently does not want to tarnish the image of Obama friends Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were allegedly part of or had direct knowledge of the bombing plot that also injured several other police officers. The Tribune considers Ayers an education expert and has published various articles by him
lame tactics like "People like you"
Originally posted by The Nighthawk
Yeah, People like You, who cheerlead for an illegitimate, criminal administration despite a mountain of evidence that they're dragging his entire country, and You with it, down. People who would rather blame "liberals" for the problems we face instead of pointing the finger directly at your Exalted Leader who tells you right up-front he's the "Decider" while whining about them damn Congressional Democrats and calling the Constitution a "G-dDamned Piece of Paper". Yes. People like YOU.
all topped off by a personal attack
Originally posted by The Nighthawk
My personal attack is valid. You support another war of aggression against a sovereign country that has not attacked us and is in no position to do so. People lay out the evidence for you again and again that Iran is not the hard-line, raging Fundamentalist exapnsionist Islamic state you seem to think it is, they provide for you the evidence that Iran and Iraq are on a road to friendship and a strong alliance, and you refuse to even consider it because it disputes what you've been told by your Exalted Leader and his cronies about why we need more war.
There are only a few possibilities here as to why you're so obstinate in your refusal to consider basic facts:
Originally posted by jsobecky
No you are.
Nah, they're just a bunch of liberal whiney bullcrap.
Originally posted by The Nighthawk
Got some sources to back up your "Liberal Newsrag" comment?
Ask and ye shall receive:
Tribune Covers For Obama's Terrorist Friends
By Cliff Kincaid
May 8, 2008
www.gopusa.com...
So if the gay Republicans are not really Republicans, what are they? One veteran observer of this network told AIM that the Foley scandal should make it crystal clear that the gay Republicans are in reality "liberal activists" who want to use the party to advance the same homosexual agenda embraced by the Democrats.
About Obama's terrorist acquaintance
Steve Chapman
April 20, 2008
"But he is friendly with William Ayers, a leader of the radical Weather Underground, which in the 1970s carried out numerous bombings, including one inside the U.S. Capitol. (Though the last person who should object is Hillary Clinton, whose husband pardoned two Weather Underground members.)"
Uh, he is The Decider. isn't he?
And do you remember what BJ Clinton said about the government? "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people"
He also said "You can't say you love your country and hate your government."
Not facts, toots, opinions.
You believe everything Ahmadinejead says.
You hate your country.
And personal attacks are never valid.
Groupspeak and groupthink - that's what People Like You are made of.
Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira
Iran is supplying its proxies throughout the ME with weapons to kill British and American and Israeli troops. It's a fact dood.
You may be a limp wristed liberal.
Ourmaninadinnerjacket was in the embassy siege, he now rules this Iranian state that doesn't play ball.
Eliminate his team and we play a whole different ball game. It's a very serious option and a very easy one at that.
Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira
Iran is supplying its proxies throughout the ME with weapons to kill British and American and Israeli troops. It's a fact dood. You may be a limp wristed liberal. Iran is the main pillar within The Axis of Evil. Take out Iran and the ME looks a really better place. Ourmaninadinnerjacket was in the embassy siege, he now rules this Iranian state that doesn't play ball. Eliminate his team and we play a whole different ball game. It's a very serious option and a very easy one at that.
Confusing matters further, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pontificates rather than give a direct answer when questioned about the statement, such as in Lally Weymouth's Washington Post interview in September 2006:
Q: Are you really serious when you say that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth?
A: We need to look at the scene in the Middle East — 60 years of war, 60 years of displacement, 60 years of conflict, not even a day of peace. Look at the war in Lebanon, the war in Gaza — what are the reasons for these conditions? We need to address and resolve the root problem.
Q: Your suggestion is to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?
A: Our suggestion is very clear:... Let the Palestinian people decide their fate in a free and fair referendum, and the result, whatever it is, should be accepted.... The people with no roots there are now ruling the land.
Q: You've been quoted as saying that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth. Is that your belief?
A: What I have said has made my position clear. If we look at a map of the Middle East from 70 years ago...
Q: So, the answer is yes, you do believe that it should be wiped off the face of the Earth?
A:Are you asking me yes or no? Is this a test? Do you respect the right to self-determination for the Palestinian nation? Yes or no? Is Palestine, as a nation, considered a nation with the right to live under humane conditions or not? Let's allow those rights to be enforced for these 5 million displaced people.
Originally posted by jsobecky
You are absolutely correct about Iran supplying the insurgents with arms and training. There is mounting evidence to support that claim.
Ahmadinejead was in the embassy siege,
Ahmadinejad had no role in US Embassy siege: Hostage-takers
IRNA - Islamic Republic News Agency
Tehran, July 1, IRNA
Iran-US-Ahmadinejad
The three leading Iranian hostage-takers here Friday vehemently denied the reports on President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's role in the 1979 US Embassy siege.
Abbas Abdi, Mohsen Mirdamadi, and Hamid Reza Jalaeipour, the leaders of "Students Following the Path of Imam" taking the embassy, said the reports on Ahmadinejad's involvement were not true.
Some US Embassy officials taken hostage after the victory of the Islamic Revolution have claimed Ahmadinejad was one of their captors and interrogators, while the trio said the president-elect did not accompany the hostage-takers even for one minute.
and his remarks about pushing Israel into the ocean should be taken as a direct threat. He was given an opportunity to clarify his remarks in an interview, but weasel-worded his way around a direct answer:
Confusing matters further, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pontificates rather than give a direct answer when questioned about the statement, such as in Lally Weymouth's Washington Post interview in September 2006:
Q: Are you really serious when you say that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth?
A: We need to look at the scene in the Middle East — 60 years of war, 60 years of displacement, 60 years of conflict, not even a day of peace. Look at the war in Lebanon, the war in Gaza — what are the reasons for these conditions? We need to address and resolve the root problem.
Q: Your suggestion is to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?
A: Our suggestion is very clear:... Let the Palestinian people decide their fate in a free and fair referendum, and the result, whatever it is, should be accepted.... The people with no roots there are now ruling the land.
Q: You've been quoted as saying that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth. Is that your belief?
A: What I have said has made my position clear. If we look at a map of the Middle East from 70 years ago...
Q: So, the answer is yes, you do believe that it should be wiped off the face of the Earth?
A:Are you asking me yes or no? Is this a test? Do you respect the right to self-determination for the Palestinian nation? Yes or no? Is Palestine, as a nation, considered a nation with the right to live under humane conditions or not? Let's allow those rights to be enforced for these 5 million displaced people.
www.mohammadmossadegh.com...
Originally posted by jsobecky
Oh, of course. Excuse me for not acknowledging that whatever Ahmadinejead says must be true and whatever news comes out of Tehran must be absolute gospel.
It is all America's fault, of course. And those horrible embassy spies. No other country would ever think of committing such crimes. /sarcasm
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by The Nighthawk
Oh, of course. Excuse me for not acknowledging that whatever Ahmadinejead says must be true and whatever news comes out of Tehran must be absolute gospel.
A plan to show some alleged Iranian-supplied explosives to journalists last week in Karbala and then destroy them was canceled after the United States realized none of them was from Iran. A U.S. military spokesman attributed the confusion to a misunderstanding that emerged after an Iraqi Army general in Karbala erroneously reported the items were of Iranian origin.
When U.S. explosives experts went to investigate, they discovered they were not Iranian after all.
Iran, meanwhile, continues to seethe after an Iraqi delegation went to Tehran last week to confront it with the accusations.
Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
Iran is the main pillar within The Axis of Evil supplying its proxies to kill our troops every day
Originally posted by Keyhole
Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
Iran is the main pillar within The Axis of Evil supplying its proxies to kill our troops every day
Did you read the post above yours?
Apparently they had it WRONG and the weapons ARE NOT from Iran!
Maybe that's why they couldn't catch them bringing them in across the border!
You are absolutely correct about Iran supplying the insurgents with arms and training. There is mounting evidence to support that claim.
"We don't have that kind of evidence... If there is hard evidence we will defend the country."
"I have not myself seen any evidence -- and I don't think any evidence exists -- of government-supported or instigated" armed support on Iran's part in Iraq, British Defense Secretary Des Browne said in an interview in Baghdad in late August.
The officials offered no evidence to substantiate allegations that the "highest levels" of the Iranian government had sanctioned support for attacks against U.S. troops. Also, the military briefers were not joined by U.S. diplomats or representatives of the CIA or the office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Although the administration has made many assertions about Iran's nuclear program, its role in Iraq and its ties to groups on the State Department's terrorism list, the U.S. government has never publicly offered evidence proving the allegations.
Ahmadinejead was in the embassy siege, and his remarks about pushing Israel into the ocean should be taken as a direct threat.
Two weeks ago, a CIA analysis of a photograph of one of the hostage-takers determined that the man was not Ahmadinejad.
The State Department has been conducting interviews with some former hostages over the past week. Most of the former hostages have said Ahmadinejad was not present during the hostage-taking, two U.S. government officials said.
Abbas Abdi, one of the leaders of the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in 1979, said in a telephone interview from Tehran on Thursday that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was not involved.
International media have compared photos of Ahmadinejad, who won a presidential runoff election last week, with a black-and-white picture of one of the hostage-takers, a young man with a thin, bearded face and dark hair that sweeps across his forehead.
But Hajjarian identified the man in the photo as Taqi Mohammadi.
“This man is Taqi Mohammadi, a militant who later turned into a dissident and committed suicide in jail,” he said, pointing to the 1979 photo. Mohammadi was arrested on charges of involvement in the 1981 bombing in Tehran that killed the country’s president and prime minister
Watching coverage of Iran's presidential election on television dredged up 25-year-old memories that prompted four of the former hostages to exchange e-mails.
And those four realized they shared the same conclusion — the firm belief that President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had been one of their Iranian captors. Associates of Ahmadinejad deny any such link.
"This is the guy. There's no question about it," said former hostage Chuck Scott, a retired Army colonel who lives in Jonesboro, Ga. "You could make him a blond and shave his whiskers, put him in a zoot suit and I'd still spot him."
Scott and former hostages David Roeder, William J. Daugherty and Don A. Sharer told The Associated Press on Wednesday they have no doubt Ahmadinejad, 49, was one of the hostage-takers. A fifth ex-hostage, Kevin Hermening, said he reached the same conclusion after looking at photos.