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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 04:11 PM by blowfishdl
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by blowfishdl
Actually I found the real, and original privacy policy
here.

Clearly, that is the old policy which has been updated long ago. (I modified the post to contain a link to the official policy.)



It notes that it records IP addresses, and does not address the concern of sharing the IP address' of it's visitors.

1 - We don't record the IP addresses of visits, just posts.

2 - What part of this statement, "we never use or share the personally identifiable information provided to us," is unclear to you?


If that is the case, then why is it not stated as so in either privacy policy?


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 04:14 PM by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by blowfishdl
If that is the case, then why is it not stated as so in either privacy policy?

It is very clearly stated... in the old policy you linked, and...

The Official Privacy Policy

Finally, we never use or share the personally identifiable information provided to us online in ways unrelated to the ones described above. Your profile information is protected from web-spiders that search for e-mail addresses and other personal information. We reserve the right to disclose any personally identifiable information associated with your account and/or posting history as required by law and when we believe that disclosure is necessary to protect our rights and/or comply with a judicial proceeding, court order, or legal process served on The Above Network, LLC.




reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 04:19 PM by blowfishdl
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



That may seem like a very good 'catch all' but it very much leaves the legal door cracked for ATS to disclose IP information.

This is how the e-mail protection is described:

We use the e-mail address you provided to confirm your discussion board password. Your addresses are not used for any other purpose other than registration for the AboveTopSecret.com email newsletters, and will never be shared with outside parties and are not viewable by unregistered members.


Yet the IP protection does not state that it will not be shared with outside parties. Instead it merely states that it records your IP.

We use the information you provided about yourself at registration to authorize your access when you post messages on our discussion forum. We also record IP address you're using at the time of each posted messages.


Is there any way we can include similar verbiage to protect IP distribution?


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 04:27 PM by Wig
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



Does it not occur to you that if you mostly send out unimportant advertising messages about various areas of ATS, that you are conditioning your users who don't want to read them into deleting messages from "ATS admin" without opening them. So that when you do genuinely want to communicate something to your users that is important you run the risk of them deleting it without reading it? IMO that's not a very good strategy for your administration team to use.


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 11:43 AM by Springer
reply to post by Wig


That is each and every member's right and risk. If the occasional promotion of things we create for our membership bothers you so horridly then by all means please delete any "ATS ADMIN" u2u that hits your in box, we'd hate to cause you any further distress or annoyance.

For the vast majority of our members (the 139,000+ other members who don't have a problem with it) it's simply not that big of a deal. Many actually appreciate the "heads up" when it is about something that may interest them, like a new book co-published by ATS.

Springer...


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 11:46 AM by schrodingers dog
reply to post by Springer



Happy thanksgiving Spring,
You know what I would be thankful for?
Getting rid of this horrible beige on the sides of the page.
Please?


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 05:19 PM by GoldenAge
Hi ATS Staff,

I'm sure everyone must be very busy, but when you have the time, please review my posts in the thread,

Steven Greer claims he vectored in the Phoenix lights UFOs!

Now I can already hear you going "Ugh! Not ANOTHER Greer thread!", but I would very much like everyone to see the idea I've been trying to put forth for you in that thread. I think you'll like it a lot - especially when you get to see the overunity energy devices in action for yourselves!

I am exceedingly anxious to see what ATS has to say about it - especially Springer.

With tremendous respect, loyalty and love,
-JEDI-


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 05:42 PM by whoswatchinwho
reply to post by CA_Orot



I have to agree with you here CA, I was a little confused as to what spam was being spoken about, I thought maybe I wasn't getting some. I've just had a look at my u2u's I haven't deleted any and there are 5 going back to the beginning of November, The ATS mix,the book and the one about the video secion, that's not much really.


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 05:55 PM by CA_Orot
reply to post by Wig



I won't pretend to know what Springer implied by his statement, but, I would assume (going out on a limb here) that you are probably one of the only members to bring this issue up. Hence, that would provide reason to believe that the other 139,000 + of us, don't really care all that much about them -- otherwise something might have been said earlier.

The U2U inbox, is for ATS Mail only (from members, admin, mod's etc)...is it not? Now, do you really have so much traffic running through your inbox that getting the occasionally rare message from Admin, cramps your style? (As whoiswatchingwho said, there have been 5 emails from Admin)... Or are you talking about your personal account? The one you signed up with that recieves the newsletters...? Because I'm sure THAT can be fixed on your end.

- Carrot


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