The ATS Issues Thread, page 4

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reply to post by intrepid

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I'm as guilty of this as anyone...my apologies to everyone. Me and my bad temper are done for the day. Again, my apologies.

reply to post by seagull

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My apologize to the staff and also to you seagull. I'm a sorry example of testing the waters of this site and seagull and what can happen when you do.

When all is said and done I do hope that everyone agrees on one fact that cannot be deleted, this site, ATS is by far the best site for alternative information and for all the masses.

You can come here and discuss absolutely anything under the sun and beyond. You can thank all that this site has to offer to the hard working individuals that own, maintain and scrutinize the boards. These people are not asking for donations as other sites, "do you see any paypal logos asking for your hard earned cash? NO!! I whole hardly agree with "Loyal" who I might ad I tried to get a rise out of.

Get out of the, "We own this site mindset people." These people can run, influence and remove anything and everything from this site that they do not want or agree with, period! I think the rules of engagement here is more than fair.

I also think that it is none of our business who gets let go and who stays, regarding the brass. The powers that be are as far as I'm concerned been very forthcoming even in this area even though I have no doubt they would just as soon tell everyone that it is "None Of Our Business,"PERIOD.

Long live ATS, everyone in it's day to day survival and all the members here that really give a damn.



[edit on 5/14/08 by 2nts_astk]

(this is a my reponse to the John Lear situation. I posted this in a new thread, and then it was rightly closed after a Mod pointed me in the direction of this "ATS Issues" Thread)



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I wanted to get in touch with John Lear, and i noticed his fourm was gone.

A little digging, and i found out that there was some 'dirty laundry' and that we will never get to the bottem of this.


That being said.

Its a (blank)ing shame that John Lear is gone.


I dont think that he should have been forced out of this board.

Its is also a shame that his Fourm was taken down... the thread that 'explained' why John Lear was banned, was strange, at best.

The thread was closed, and John Lear only made one post, and it basicly refuted what the Mods and Owners said.

John Lear had some of the best threads on this Site.


I just don't know how to express this foul taste that is in my mouth.

This may be the lowest point i have experineced in all my years here on ATS.


There is no doubt in my mind that this thread will be closed...

I am also mad that it took like 3 months to notice that he is gone.


DAMM YOU ATS...


This is just one point in the book thats is the downfall of ATS.

John Lear was the best member on ATS, he was also the biggest Celb on ATS, more people have been turned onto ATS from John Lears Coast to Coast interviews, then anything else.

John Lear also gave TONS of attention to ATS, when he was on C2C, all he did was Mention ATS over and over...

John Lear was the best thing to Happen to ATS, and it seems the Mods just killed him off...

Originally posted by TKainZero
A little digging, and i found out that there was some 'dirty laundry' and that we will never get to the bottem of this.

I covered many of the issues in page one of this thread.

Its a (blank)ing shame that John Lear is gone.

I agree.

I dont think that he should have been forced out of this board.

No one at ATS forced him off the site.


[quote/]This may be the lowest point i have experineced in all my years here on ATS.
It's unfortunate that this event has caused this. We did our best to avoid problems, and get John back to posting on ATS.

is is just one point in the book thats is the downfall of ATS.

Actually, we're coming off three sequential days of record breaking traffic because of the amount of international news being credited to this thread. I believe this may very well be the first time several major mainstream news sources has credited a user-generated content site that focuses on conspiracies and UFO's with a significant story... in fact, the headline ran front-page in the New York Times.

John Lear also gave TONS of attention to ATS, when he was on C2C, all he did was Mention ATS over and over...

And as I mentioned on page one of this thread, we returned in kind and did our best to promote him as well.

OK, i think its best i just forget i realised that JL is no longer with this site.

And just wait for him to come back...


That Thread You linked too.

I kept my eye on it, and i am sure about EVERY goverment orginazation did too...

Every once in a while, ATS gets some thread that gets like half a million views... you know that there is something else going on...

Originally posted by TKainZero
I mean, the 'icon' for that fourm page is a Skunk... giving the impresion that the topics inside the fourm, 'Stink'

The name, and the icon, come from here...
Lockheed Martin Skunk Works
We've always assumed that anyone interested in these topics would make that rather easy connection.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


I agree with you on that Bill, Skunkworks should be a great place for Black Ops, Moon conspiracies etc, etc... but in reality it does seem to kill a thread...

Heck even Mulder's office in that broom closet in the basement was most likely the most interesting place I FBI headquarters... but for some reason many here feel skunk works is where you stick things you don't want out in the light of day

IMO of course...