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posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 12:53 AM

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
No Lord Bucket, it's not warnings, cause I don't have 153 warnings...
Not yet, but it's always good to have goals.

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 01:11 AM
Well I like it.

Nice going guys!

Are we to expect more incremental changes or are we at the final format for now?


posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 02:48 AM

Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
ETA: With all these changes can we please include posters content after we hit reply, it makes it much easier to reference as we respond.

If you hit the quote button instead of the reply button, you can use the quoted post as reference and then delete the quote completely once your reply is ready.

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 03:39 AM
I saw this morning that the site has been upgraded again and I cannot say other than that it looks great.

It’s all clear and very conveniently arranged.

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 08:14 AM
I have a question, I tried a search for the answer, but it didn't turn up, and don't want to scan over 300 pages here to see if its been asked.

How do we link to a specific post, not the page its on? I've seen it done before but can't figure out how to do it.

I'm not sure I like all the changes on the forum, but it still seems to work. The Facebook one is the one I'm quite upset about. Not just ATS either, but Shaw Cable's Shaw On Demand, for the movies. I don't have a clue what its doing on Facebook. And I've done a huge search to order our anime service for the kids, that is a non facebook log in and can't find one, I even emailed them and told them they have a duty to be on a their own servers and what I thought about facebook, and NWO.

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 08:20 AM
reply to post by Unity_99

At the top of each post, right next to the time stamp, there's a link that says "this post".

Click on that link and you will be taken to that specific post in the thread. Then you can copy&paste the location into a link in the post that you're writing.

Like this, which will link to your post just above mine.

Hope that helps

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 08:30 AM
reply to post by americandingbat

Thank you, very much appreciated. I was beginning to think html and it was so simple after all.

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 12:39 PM
reply to post by DISRAELI

Thanks for the tip DISRAEL

I like the changes more now and the only thing I would add is that the new font size is easy on the eyes but the signature is a bit small, imo.
Thanks again for all the effort though guys, ATS rocks!

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 01:13 PM
Hi, was trying to help my son Jeff sign in on his 09 account, he wants to start becoming active, but he forgot his password and when we attempt to figure it out it goes back to my member name and password.

How do we log him in? I did log out first, but I guess my IP comes up or something?


posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 01:14 PM
reply to post by antar

try clearing cookies

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 01:16 PM
reply to post by americandingbat

I was just figuring that out!! Great, and good to see you sexy! I started to u2u you the other day and got side tracked.

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 01:17 PM
reply to post by Crakeur

Ok, now I have to find out how to clear my cookies... Ill check with comp forum, thanks

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 02:39 PM
Spoken to another member and tested it myself - Chat doesn't appear to work in Opera, you just get a blank grey screen after you press to confirm the new rules page.

- Phoenix

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 03:58 PM
reply to post by davespanners

The tags for the external content are [‍ex] and [‍/ex].

Or you can click this button
when writing your posts.

posted on Sep, 30 2010 @ 06:08 PM
Could someone explain the points system to me - can't find info any where. Never paid much attention to it before but I noticed I have almost as many BTS points as ATS points and I seldom go to BTS? Been to BTS maybe 7 or 8 times at the most to post.

posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 03:24 AM
Just wondering if there will be a "fix" that will allow those who mostly access ATS via Blackberry so that we will once again be able to "edit", "reply TO" and "quote" again?
The new format Looks GREAT on my PC. The problem is that I am hardly ever home to use it.
Before the new format I could access the site and take advantage of all the "bells and whistles" from my BB.
About the only thing I can do now is "reply".
Just wondering if there was anything being/could be done about it (other than getting a new phone).
Thanks in advance,

posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 06:14 PM
There has three times this week where I have spent a half hour or more responding to an introductory thread, and by the time I post it I get the "You are not allowed to post" screen due to the thread being trashed binned or just plain deleted.

My responses were well thought out and I invested both time and intellectual effort into writing them.

My question is:

Would it be appropriate to cut and paste to a u2u private message and send it to the author of the original subject matter?


Edit to add:

Originally posted by Anonymous Member
Seems that approximately 90% of the reply posts that I have seen here on ATS - are coming from very hostile Skeptics and debunkers. It doesn't even seem to matter what the subject content is.

It is a byproduct/side effect of biological obligations.

I was not sure sure what you meant by "militant skeptics". I spent more than a decade in the usaf, stationed at nellis afb, with exception of basic training, technical training, and deployments. I would not consider myself skeptical of some things, nor a debunker of some things. I'm not sure if I could be, and be honest to my own senses.

I will pose the question again. If it all such crap to you - why waste your time at such a site?? Are you the self-appointed Vanguards of the woefully un-educated paradigms of the easily-led?

Since these questions do not apply to me, I can only imagine.

A fair analogy (I think), proving that skeptics and debunkers only have numbers and statistics on their side:
once out of fifteen times two four sided jigsaw puzzle pieces do line up and fit, if the puzzle only has two pieces, that is.
A skeptic is still passively seeing if those sides can line up and fit together, but are taking into account debunkers.
Debunkers have already decided that they pieces of the puzzle do not line up, but maybe have not tried all 16 possible combinations. Perhaps reasonable doubt = debunked? Believers are optimistic, but their progress is slowed down due to dealing with believers who are perhaps pessimistic, and debunkers who are thwarting certain truisms unconsciously and subconsciously due to internal intracellular obligations and genetic prime directives. Again, possibly a defense mechanism.

Really, what is it that you gain from being such a destructive force - amongst people that are simply exploring / developing alternative theories? Regardless; who died and made you 'the last word' on anything? What are your true credentials?

Actually, I see many individuals in our ATS community who do have some expert and learned credentials, but are currently in a skeptical or debunking mode. They do offer some level of truth and do bring legitimate concerns to our think tank community. Personally, I do not enjoy the luxuries of being skeptical or feeling the entire ufo/alien visitation phenomenon is without any merit. My days of arguing whether this pixel or that pixel exists or has been altered are behind me. There are others more qualified to argue such trivial matters, .... well ... trivial in from my perspective at least.

If you don't believe in something - fine.

They believe, they just demand physical proof devoid of ideological obligations, in some cases.

Make your point - hack it up - and move on to your next target of insult.

Insults present a lack of credentiality, credibility, where as legitimacy may not be affected if one's facts and intelligent arguments are presented in a knowledgable and unassuming way. If you detect any amount of deception, or of psychological manipulation instigated by said tacticians we can feel free to dismiss their key points rather easily while not enduring an emotional response, or affecting our long term relationships and intrapersonal friendships with said skeptics and debunkers. We can be on the same side, without agreeing with eachother on all points.

But this 'over and over and over again' crap is simply inexcusable.

I'll excuse this statement. No harm, no foul.

Ultimately, I blame the MODS. You should all resign - and get some folks in here that will protect against repeated attacks against unconventional ideas, or idealism.

Why blame the MODS? Have you seen the application list? And you want the MODS to ALL Resign?

If not - Conceed to your true nature!

Concede, but you were probably typing too fast, and this more than likely was a typo. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on this one, and think conceding to our true nature is one way to become acquanted with our true nature, I suppose.

'Free Speech' also implies limiting the oppression quotes.

And if we spout back at Cons - we are then flagged with etiquette policy notifications - or often - it is the OP that gets their materials removed. Quite biased, I must say. And it is a tactic - a strategy used by some here - that have nothing better to do that to assault other's 'think tank' threads. And the website doesn't seem to see through this behaviour.

It is difficult to filter through all truisms and fact check every statement. Let the Mods enjoy their ATS, too. Ultimately it is up to the members to take some measure of personal reliability and personal responsibility for the statements they present as absolute and unbiasedly true facts based upon credentialed legitimate sources of information.

There are quite a number of beliefs posted here at ATS that I don't personally subscribe to: But I also do not fill 10 pages of retro-posts: pummelling their submissions. That is simply the M.O. of school yard bullies. It reminds me of a goal tender in a hockey game. It smacks of fear.

The truth does not always require defending, or fighting in favor of. While others are burning callories arguing pixels and/or attempting character assassinations, they recluse themselves while choosing to be their own self contained determent.

And I am quite certain that it stops many from coming back to ATS.

Diversity that covers the spectrum of the rainbow of attributes and specialities is something that makes ATS more productive in my opinion. However, I can appreciate the attentiveness to detail.

Something that management should be more concerned about ; but it seems not to be the case. If a subject seems unreasonable; it is most often labeled as 'Proven Hoax' - or 'Officially Debunked.'

Perhaps you can supply some examples of what has been classified as a hoax that you personally think was premature or not appropriate.

And what does 'Officially Debunked' mean, anyway? It is simply, merely general consensus. It is 'proof' of nothing - short of pomp and circumstance. It is decided by the programmer that possesses the most powerful editing tool. Again I say; However well educated: Opinion is not tantamount to 'proof.'

Even "experts" can be wrong. However studies that are hundreds of years old seem to support that the more diverse the group, and the more the numbers, the closer the average of their guesses (educated or not) is to the truth.

I recall a story of a noble man who made a bet that none of the commoners or peasantry could guess the accurate weight of a beast during a medieval fair. Their was a compitition where hundreds of peasants guessed the weight of the pig or cow, and no one of them guessed the accurate weight, yet when all the guesses were added up and the average was determined, they had collectively guessed the accurate weight of the beast. For similiar reasons, I can see how some democratic suppression of deduced falsehoods should be temporarily or permanently suppressed, especially when specialists of academic studies also weigh in with tidbits of truisms.

If they truly were such experts - they'd be teaching at MIT - or some damn place. If anyone here truly 'had the goods' to the question of the existence of UFO's - they'd be instructing Stephen Hawking.

Teaching Stephen Hawking? Why bother? Even he himself has stated that even if he knew the theory of everything he would not share it because then what would be left for anyone else to do? I equate this to being a team member in a relay race who refuses to pass on the batton to the next racer because he feels he has won the race even though no team member of his has crossed the finish line, let alone broken the tape. Damn rude, arrogant, and self absorbed if you ask me. It equates to "If I know, I'm not telling you."

Until the censoring MODS close this thread down: ( which they soon will ) I hope the jerks read this - and spew more vile. You only prove my point.

Why be a proponent of their tactics? Why reinforce their efforts by letting it effect you on a personal level?

And if this type of behavior is all-so-acceptable; why doesn't ATS rename themselves 'the Skeptic's Corner.'??

That is good name for a forum, maybe

It would be a more of an honest approach, would it not? Then you could all gloat over your self-appointed perception of your supreme intellects.

Supreme intellects is still akin to calling someone a "know it all", which is not what skeptics and debunkers are. But it does have negative connotations, in my opinion.

So much of the behaviour that I continuously see here is absolutely shameful. And - the mods just let it continue . I think taking this approach also represents the website's true stance. So be honest, and come forth. I think that such people are gutless - and hide behind the safety of their computer modems.

Can you tell us how you really feel? Please, don't hold back.


It is sometimes frustrating to spend time and effort on what I think some appropriate rebuttal and key points may be and find I can't post them. darn it. so I posted it here instead


edit on 1-10-2010 by Esoteric Teacher because: edit to add example

posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 07:46 PM
Forgive me if this is a stupid question or in the wrong thread but I would like to know the dimensions of the profile background image. Please and thanks.

posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Curiousisall
Forgive me if this is a stupid question or in the wrong thread but I would like to know the dimensions of the profile background image. Please and thanks.

Answer found here

posted on Oct, 1 2010 @ 07:56 PM
reply to post by greeneyedleo

Thank you so very kindly. I did search and came across some thread just about avatars but I guess I should have tried a little harder.
Thanks much!

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