It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by semperfortis
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
Foe-ing someone will not change what you see or how you see it on the boards..
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
if we are put on someone's ignore list, how do we know that member is ignoring us?
This may have been done before in some shape or form and if so please excuse my ignorance with the search options because I couldn't find it.
According to the 6th amendment of the American constitution a person has the right to face their accusers when confronted with something unjust being cast upon their character.
Now I appreciate that we're not all in the United States of America here and that the boards have their own set of rules for what is and is not acceptable and so accept the fact that this isn't a given for everyone or a right that people should expect - this is the interwebz after all.
That said I have also seen huge changes to these boards regarding receiving constructive feedback and believe this site to be beyond repute when it comes to proper and honest transparency.
Now I won't link to a recent thread where I found a couple of my posts deleted (and another edited without consent) due to politeness and reserved appreciation of the hard work of moderators here however I will discuss the thoughts I had from such deletions and edits to my expressions.
I understand that one can contact the person who uses their moderation abilities individually to get a more complete understanding of why they moderated something in such a way. I also understand that this action can be revoked through discussion with said moderator and that if that action isn't considered appropriate then a complaint can be posted which will bring it to the attention of all moderators and administrators on these boards.
I think this is not only a superb way of working but also the benchmark which other web forums should strive to achieve - a really brilliant way of making sure that moderation is open and transparent.
However my reason for this thread is that in using said system I have found myself wanting to know why a post can be deemed inappropriate by one moderator and any public call about said actions afterwards (such as mentioning it idly in a later post) also pulls in the actions of deletion.
Where this to happen in a public setting an account would be kept and given for each action and accountability would be given to each individual who provided said actions. This does not happen here.
I realise having every post that is deleted or amended have it's own courtroom is infeasible but is there a way that a person can confront, in public, those who delete, amend or change their content and thus let everyone understand why it happened as well as allow for the decision to appeal said action to be given to an audience?
As is actions taken are either dealt with on a personal level (when questioned) and further actions taken appropriate to that communication or posted to a closed forum where moderators decide amongst themselves what can or cannot become of it (Which I was chided for doing by a moderator in a U2U incidentally).
Can we have an open and transparent area where these actions can be viewed and a separate area where members can discuss the outcomes of said discussions?
We need someone to watch over the watchers.
Please understand that I in no way dislike, condemn or disapprove of the moderation of these forums - it's a hard days graft done on a voluntary basis and I really appreciate it. I am only asking that decisions made by the moderators be open and transparent and that we can all see how these decisions come together and be able to appeal them in a public setting if need be.
Sorry for the huge amount of reading required to get to where we are now and I thank you for any and all thoughts regarding this request.
Again in no way shape or form am I putting down the excellent work of the moderators of these forums I am only asking that it be done in a more civilised and democratic fashion.
Thanks for reading.
Originally posted by m0r1arty
...trying to bring the point of understanding what actions are taken to label something as such and what is the right to appeal such decisions in an open and public fashion...