reply to post by Telos
Firstly - thank you for posting your thread content here in ATS Issues. I do appreciate you were effectively given little choice due to the locking
and redirection here...but thank you sincerely all the same.
Thank you also for bring my reply to the attention of the Site Owners, and wider ATS Community - as it also allows me a chance to respond in some
I certainly appreciate that my reply wasn't 'professional'. And indeed perhaps there is quite an expectation that any SuperMod here on ATS should
remain professional at all times.
However - and really I also acknowledge this is no excuse - to expect so is to also dismiss one of the core realities that even us Staff are human and
occasionally have human responses.
With that in mind, I'll also say this:
I am more than happy to bear the consequences of my actions, and of what and how I post here on ATS.
If the Site Owners so deem it appropriate that any subsequent consequences are removal of SuperMod status, so be it. There will be no anonimosity on
my part...after all...it IS about responsibility also. Be we Member or be we Mod.
Like you I have also been an ATS Member for many years. Right from the old eziboard days.
I've been a part of the furniture for around 9 years and a Mod for coming up 8 years.
So like you I also hold a whole bunch of love and *investment* in this place.
The other thing I'd like to put out there is that the Site Owners, the Staff, are people I've come to also know and love over the years...like any
team you draw closer, you share many things and events *outside of ATS*...in many ways the Staff here function like a family.
We've been part of eachothers weddings, births, deaths...much of our lives outside of this site are shared with eachother via this site.
So yes, I hold a lot of love for them as well.
I also wish to acknowledge and thank you for bringing up another very pertinent point: Respect
I acknowledge and yes apologise for the disrespect shown by myself.
However - and people may class this as petty - respect is also in many ways a double-edged sword.
I appreciate that Members often see Staff acting with perceived Bias. I can appreciate that Members feel frustrated having threads locked or
I can appreciate that Members may also suspect that there is some deeper hidden agenda behind what a Staff Member may do...hey, after all, this is a
But I'll be real honest here as well - what I don't appreciate is when I see what I'd consider disrespect of this site, the Site Owners and the
Staff who give their time - just as you do - to this site.
What I don't appreciate is when replies start firing accusations and inferences that the Staff - people whom I know and love - are in some way
operating with a Zionist/Nazi/MSM/CIA/NSA/Insert-Whomever-Here Agenda.
What I don't appreciate is when replies start effectively putting in the boot on Staff and casting aspersions upon what we do, how we think and who
For being Staff those aspersions and accusations are also - either directly or indirectly - against me also.
Now...again...I appreciate that as a SuperMod there is some expectation that we should 'turn the other cheek' or 'rise above that'.
But again to expect us to do so all the time is something I'd fail to see as possible.
As said: Respect. Its a double-edged sword. People can demand or expect respect (again be they Member or be they Mod)...but what levels of respect
and/or disrespect do we as Staff get shown??
I think people would be surprised just how much mud gets slung at this site and its Staff in threads and via u2us directly to us.
I acknowledge you point about Community. And like any community there does need to be a little bit of understanding and give-and-take...certainly
acknowledge that I personally, and Staff as a whole, can always be more understanding.
But I'd also encourage ATS Members to ALSO be more understanding.
Understanding that mudslinging and sticking in the sidejabs DOES affect Staff too.
Understand that respect does need to go both ways...so if we're all just a little bit less
quick to put in the boot, to sling the mud, to cast
aspersions and accusations, then perhaps Staff would also be less
quick to drop the hammer.
This may well be a Conspiracy Website - but not everything is a Conspiracy.
...again, thank you...sincerely...
[edit on 26-8-2009 by alien]