Originally posted by jhill76

I know I broke the rules of being off topic, I have stated that. I am saying why not do it to other members in the same thread. Why not be uniform. That's my main concern right there.

In defence of jhill76 -- as he named me personally -- I feel I have to agree that my post should also have been removed, if his and Pokie Joe's were. I'm not trying to start anything with the moderators, especially not now. It's my fault, I shouldn't have posted it.

I've just had a look at the thread in question. While I don't necessarily agree with the thrust of the thread, he does seem to have some justification given a number of off-topic posts that don't seem to have been addressed. Lack of consistency will give cause for grief when someone does get smacked for off topic posting, especially when things get heated.

As for the NIPR/SIPRnet issue, I am surprised that someone would get confused between the two. The OP asked a valid question in this regard. It may have been an honest mistake, but it was wrong nonetheless.

Originally posted by jhill76
Thanks! I really hated to use you, you just happen to be an example.

It's no problem, Sir. I think you have a valid point.

Originally posted by jhill76
I know I broke the rules of being off topic, I have stated that. I am saying why not do it to other members in the same thread. Why not be uniform. That's my main concern right there. That is why I said they are being selective, which I have clearly proven to be true.

ATS is a very busy place, sometimes too busy.

It's not uncommon to see a level of uneven moderation, especially in very-active threads... and especially in very-active threads on days where many staffers may not be as active as normal, such as a holiday. In cases like this (today) the typical workload gets spread amongst a smaller than normal batch of mods.

We do our best, and do our best to be even-handed but the fact is we're human and attention can both be diverted by several simultaneous issues (the case here) and one issue from one member perhaps being more obvious than others (also likely the case here).

Normally it's a good rule of thumb for staff to avoid getting involved in mod-action in the same threads they're participating. But this being a U.S. holiday, there was a temporary shortage of available manpower.

Originally posted by Willard856
Lack of consistency will give cause for grief when someone does get smacked for off topic posting, especially when things get heated.

Especially when there are staff members posting off-topic within the very same thread, then reprimanding people for responding to staff created off-topic posts!!!

Originally posted by jhill76
I fully understand that view. I just wish when Mirthfulme said to U2 him with any further discussion, I did just that. I pointed out what I said here, and not once did he try and alleviate the tension by responding, but he read my U2. That's what made me think more that this was an issue because a mod was involved.

I just feel this could have been avoided if me and him could have had discussion privately.

I gave you a complete answer to your first inquiry... The legalese for this is "asked and answered." I chose not engage in a circular discussion regarding the matter for the very reason that is evident within the recent postings in this thread. You seem more interested in the issue for argument's sake than for the merit of the issue. As for any "uneven" moderating... No one benefited more than you, than when you removed staff edits and notices from one of your posts intentionally and I took no action other than to replace what was removed.

All these pages of bickering over something relatively trivial, while my question about really important stuff gets ignored (again), just amazes me.

I have literally been on the edge of my seat for three months since the James Gilliland Mix interview, wondering if ATS is actually going to get involved with James and investigate the Mount Adams phenomenon. The Mount Adams phenomenon, where people are allegedly having sightings and Contact experiences on an ongoing basis, for years now.

All I am asking for is a simple yes or no statement from Springer, or SO.

"Yes, we do plan on investigating that, eventually, when we get around to it, and have the time and money and resources to do it", or "No, we think that's a big hoax and we're not going to investigate that. Aerosol sprays! Blue-tac photo, blue-tac photo!".

I would very much like this one question, which others may not consider very important but which is of great personal importance to me, answered. A simple yes or no answer, and then I'll finally shut up about it.

Please! Please, and thank you.

PS, ATS rocks! Go Springer, go Springer!!